I had VERY large Leucistic Rats for many years and fed them in seperate containers for the feeding response thing and the substrate ingestion thing etc.. It was the school of thought thing back then. I agree that it doesn't work. At least for me it hasn't. Snakes can be conditioned I believe but when you pick them up I find they are as likely to think it's feeding time when removed from the cage becausee they get excited about going to the box. I have no real answers, I'm working on it too. Part of it is reading their reactions. some do recognize handling and snap out of it. Others don't. Bad thing about Kings is it's a gamble sometimes. Sometimes I have some out for extended periods of time fine and a switch clicks and they are eating fingers and hands.No smell of other snakes,prey or anything. Out of the blue.

What I'm doing now is trying to feed them 5 or 6 mice wait a day to let their stomachs settle and then gently handle them with out the tiger response . For some it seems to be working, others still go for me or their own bodies and I feed generously and frequently. "Knuckleheads is how I feel about them too. Sometimes it may be a certain time in their lives?

One of the reasons I like Black Milks is they have a TREMENDOUS feeding response but I have NEVER EVER had one chew on me like a common King out of the blue or even reaching for them. As long as they see it's not food they turn OFF. I love it!

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