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Posted by: Jlassiter at Mon Jul 5 20:32:06 2010 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by Jlassiter ]

>>Not all kinks and fertility is from inbreeding but YES if you continue to breed siblings and their offsprings and their offsprings without some variation then YES I would say that you will get defects. Bill Loves Blood Reds were famous for having all sorts of inbreeding problems. Today they have been outbred to the point that they are very healthy and very strong genetically.
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I bred one line of thayeri for 3 generations with no ill effects.....Shannon Brown has bred his Tapalpa Ruthveni for 4 generations with no ill effects.......I have a pair of F4 Tapalpa Ruthveni from Shannon and will try and produce F5s next year or 2012.......When should we start seeing defects??????

In the wild......Just an opinion.....
A single outcropping of rocks can house a number of....let's say....Rosy Boas.......
I bet each and every Rosy Boa in that outcropping is related some way.....inbred forEVER.......

I've seen infertility problems with amel Ruthveni.....But nothing else I have worked with......I don't think kinks have any thing to do with in breeding at all.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

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another trivia question.... - DMong, Mon Jul 5 02:04:44 2010

RE: another trivia question.... - Jlassiter, Mon Jul 5 02:08:38 2010

another.... trivia..... question.... - JYohe, Mon Jul 5 08:13:12 2010

RE: another.... trivia..... question.... - rbichler, Mon Jul 5 09:45:26 2010

RE: another trivia question.... - varanid, Mon Jul 5 05:18:03 2010

RE: another trivia question.... - pyromaniac, Mon Jul 5 09:03:30 2010

F1 x F2 = ? - a153fish, Mon Jul 5 09:57:20 2010

RE: F1 x F2 = ? - DMong, Mon Jul 5 11:59:11 2010

RE: F1 x F2 = ? - Jlassiter, Mon Jul 5 12:20:25 2010

We're at F4 already? lol. - a153fish, Mon Jul 5 12:27:38 2010

RE: We're at F4 already? lol. - Jlassiter, Mon Jul 5 12:30:36 2010

I'm sure Jeff will know! - a153fish, Mon Jul 5 12:33:16 2010

LOL! - DMong, Mon Jul 5 12:39:33 2010

Fresh back from streaking the town - Jeff Schofield, Mon Jul 5 13:22:04 2010

RE: Fresh back from streaking the town - a153fish, Mon Jul 5 14:35:46 2010

RE: Fresh back from streaking the town - Jeff Schofield, Mon Jul 5 14:53:48 2010

OK - a153fish, Mon Jul 5 14:58:18 2010

RE: Fresh back from streaking the town - ZFelicien, Mon Jul 5 15:21:17 2010

agreed! - DMong, Mon Jul 5 15:37:28 2010

Maybe we need a new system? - a153fish, Mon Jul 5 16:04:49 2010

Well... do we really? - ZFelicien, Mon Jul 5 16:28:58 2010

Please re read the post, second example - Jeff Schofield, Mon Jul 5 17:54:26 2010

, second example - ChristopherD, Tue Jul 6 10:28:25 2010

RE: , second example - DMong, Tue Jul 6 11:15:41 2010

or more accurately put........ - DMong, Tue Jul 6 11:25:27 2010

I like it! - a153fish, Tue Jul 6 12:05:40 2010

yepper!! n/p - DMong, Tue Jul 6 14:03:08 2010

I agree - Jeff Schofield, Tue Jul 6 14:23:52 2010

Double agree! - a153fish, Tue Jul 6 14:38:34 2010

RE: I agree - DMong, Tue Jul 6 17:21:07 2010

RE: I agree - DISCERN, Tue Jul 6 17:52:52 2010

RE: I agree - jeff schofield, Thu Jul 8 16:17:24 2010

LOL!! - DMong, Thu Jul 8 17:10:14 2010

RE: I agree - DISCERN, Thu Jul 8 19:39:19 2010

RE: I agree - jeff schofield, Thu Jul 8 23:45:05 2010

RE: I agree - DISCERN, Fri Jul 9 10:44:47 2010

Differing points of locality - jeff schofield, Fri Jul 9 14:19:24 2010

RE: Differing points of locality - DISCERN, Fri Jul 9 14:36:07 2010

Jeff! - DMong, Fri Jul 9 11:19:44 2010

It ain't a crime Jeff.... - CrimsonKing, Tue Jul 6 20:21:01 2010

RE: F1 x F2 = ? - DMong, Mon Jul 5 12:35:18 2010

okay..LOL! - DMong, Mon Jul 5 11:26:42 2010

RE: okay..LOL! - JYohe, Mon Jul 5 11:57:37 2010

RE: okay..LOL! - Jlassiter, Mon Jul 5 12:02:56 2010

RE: okay..LOL! - JYohe, Mon Jul 5 12:04:27 2010

RE: okay..LOL! - DMong, Mon Jul 5 12:09:12 2010

CORRECTION! - DMong, Mon Jul 5 12:13:04 2010

:D... Genetics! - ZFelicien, Mon Jul 5 13:30:10 2010

RE: :D... Genetics! - Jlassiter, Mon Jul 5 13:44:50 2010

RE: :D... Genetics! - ZFelicien, Mon Jul 5 13:52:17 2010

RE: :D... Genetics! - Jlassiter, Mon Jul 5 13:53:46 2010

F1 x F2 = backcross..... - garweft, Mon Jul 5 15:03:41 2010

RE: F1 x F2 = backcross..... - DMong, Mon Jul 5 15:12:24 2010

It has to be - Jeff Schofield, Mon Jul 5 14:00:47 2010

RE: It has to be - Jlassiter, Mon Jul 5 14:24:47 2010

Jeff - DMong, Mon Jul 5 14:43:18 2010

I love genetics too! - Jeff Schofield, Mon Jul 5 13:46:44 2010

RE: I love genetics too! - varanid, Mon Jul 5 18:29:09 2010

RE: I love genetics too! - a153fish, Mon Jul 5 18:38:59 2010

RE: I love genetics too! - Jlassiter, Mon Jul 5 18:44:25 2010

Ask Bill Love - a153fish, Mon Jul 5 20:17:46 2010

RE: Ask Bill Love - Jlassiter, Mon Jul 5 20:32:06 2010

RE: Ask Bill Love - a153fish, Mon Jul 5 20:38:03 2010

RE: Ask Bill Love - varanid, Mon Jul 5 20:46:22 2010

Also Jorge....... - DMong, Mon Jul 5 21:11:24 2010

RE: Also Jorge....... - a153fish, Mon Jul 5 21:27:11 2010

RE: Also Jorge....... - Jlassiter, Mon Jul 5 21:49:08 2010

RE: Also Jorge....... - DMong, Tue Jul 6 00:18:21 2010

exactly!....... - DMong, Tue Jul 6 00:13:19 2010

RE: Also Jorge....... - Bluerosy, Tue Jul 6 02:08:39 2010

Spinal kinks - a153fish, Tue Jul 6 08:56:51 2010

What about... - a153fish, Tue Jul 6 09:03:06 2010

RE: What about... - DMong, Tue Jul 6 12:32:35 2010

RE: What about... - Jlassiter, Tue Jul 6 13:28:52 2010

RE: What about... - a153fish, Tue Jul 6 14:22:21 2010

maternal instinct - Jeff Schofield, Tue Jul 6 14:57:10 2010

Could be but... - a153fish, Tue Jul 6 16:01:51 2010

RE: Could be but... - DMong, Tue Jul 6 18:27:56 2010

yeah!..LOL! - DMong, Tue Jul 6 17:46:18 2010

RE: Spinal kinks - Bluerosy, Tue Jul 6 11:18:18 2010

RE: Spinal kinks - a153fish, Tue Jul 6 11:34:57 2010

Gotta agree with Rainer - Jeff Schofield, Tue Jul 6 15:06:00 2010

That was my first suspicion.... - a153fish, Tue Jul 6 16:14:49 2010

RE: Gotta agree with Rainer - DMong, Tue Jul 6 17:56:48 2010

RE: Spinal kinks - Bluerosy, Tue Jul 6 16:25:17 2010

RE: Spinal kinks - a153fish, Tue Jul 6 17:12:19 2010

RE: Also Jorge....... - varanid, Tue Jul 6 09:34:34 2010

RE: I love genetics too! - jeff schofield, Mon Jul 5 19:20:08 2010

RE: I love genetics too! - varanid, Mon Jul 5 20:30:37 2010

LEWIS and CLARK - snake_bit, Tue Jul 6 15:22:08 2010

RE: LEWIS and CLARK - DMong, Wed Jul 7 01:29:32 2010

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