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Bluerosy
at Tue Jul 6 16:25:17 2010 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by Bluerosy ]
I know there were some paper written on this and FR had some things to say. i wish he would chime in on this here but this topic should probably be brought back to the top since it is a pretty good topic for discussion on it own even though its been done here every six months to a year.
Further, everything i have read on inbreeding depression on colubrids snakes says differently.
I don't doubt your breeding experimensts. I find it interesting that this happened with the same animal after it was bred to none related animals. It is something that should be looked into further on your end. To say that spnal kinks caused the related "outbred' offspring would idicate this is a pretty strong abnormality being passed down even while non related mates were being used.
But as far as any past information i have gatered that inbreeding depression or spinal kinks being inheritable. I have not found one good source to prove that can happen with yours being the exception. And then there are other factors like temps etc that could factor in. Also every long term herpetoculturist I have spoke to (confidencially) has found that spinal kinks are not inhertible. I am not saying that it can't happen. Just saying that in most cases where spinal kinked animals were bred, it does not pass on.
keep in mind these experiences/experiments by herpetoculturists must be attempted to be proven. So many that have tried will not speak openly on a public forum for fear of backlash of peoples opinions on this subject and future prodgeny from that breeder does not come in question. But i can tell you I have spoken to many that breed spinal kinked snakes with no transfer or ill effects to subsequent offspring.
Good luck trying to get someone to admit it on here. That is why i think FR is a valuable asset to this forum. Herpetocultursits that are current like Mark bell, BHB etc has a lot better data but won't share on an open forum. Also there are herpers who just take that kinked animals is something that is tranferrable and take that as gospel without any experiments such as yourself.
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RE: Spinal kinks - Bluerosy, Tue Jul 6 16:25:17 2010
