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RE: I agree

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Posted by: jeff schofield at Thu Jul 8 23:45:05 2010   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by jeff schofield ]  
   

Jeff,
I respectfully disagree with you, and please don't take this the wrong way, but what you are implying makes no physical, scientific, and biological sense. Here is why:

You are mixing up time with bloodlines. Bloodlines don't change. Locality does not change. Time is time, a non-physical thing. Time of course, changes with every second. Bloodlines are of course, attributed to physical things, such as our beloved snakes. There are variations of pattern of course with localities, as there is always that possibility, but line breeding, or breeding several lines from the same locality, no matter how long it goes on, does not MAKE the locality factor and fact go away? You following me? No matter if the snakes years later look different, if they are from the same locality and bloodline, they ARE just that!!

DISCERN, time changes, habitat changes, new blood gets added, old blood diluted, all in adapting to the continually changing habitat. If you dont remember what glades rats looked like 40 years ago I'm sorry. They were better than any pics, and as many line bred hi orange ones I see none look like em. Yes, I said LOOK, but the look changes with the blood to adapt. The water level in the glades have changed, yellow rats arent yellow, glades rats arent orange anymore....they have mixed the blood.

You seem to be fixated on the aspect of physical looks and time, and attributing that to somehow magically making locality becoming lost ( You say usually after the 3rd generation, right? How that idea came about is puzzling, to say the least! ). Again, from a scientific standpoint, does the bloodline suddenly STOP becoming the bloodline after so and so amount of generations? HAHA! LOL! Now, come on!!

DISCERN, the irony here is that 3 generations is about a decade. That is how long where there are noticable phenotypic changes in the wc animals. This is the ONLY thing FR and I have ever agreed upon, so I hold that idea pretty special.


The difference between locality snakes and generics is basically, the knowledge of knowing where locality stock came from vs. not knowing, thus the label, " Generic " is produced, even though all of the founding snakes/stock to our hobby came from locality stock to begin with, if you think about it. They all came from certain locations all over our earth. To me, I love locality animals, but I don't put them above generic, unlike some, who take it a little too far.

DISCERN, I think we value each type about the same. But the idea that there can be so many different lines bred from the same locale is bothersome to me. At some point you have to account for the habitat, the conditions CB snakes are kept in. WIthout parasites, having to hunt for prey or find a mate, inability to CHOOSE a mate....different forms of stress. These factors alone cause noticable changes in color/pattern, as much as if new blood was actually added. To me, and some others, line breeding at infinitem will create generic CB snakes no matter where they are from. They all could have the genetic material to be HONDURAN milks too. Like dogs, big ones and small ones are all related. The question is how closely related to the LOCALITY are they?? If there are differing levels of relatedness, at what point is locality lost? And we are back to the beginning, full circle. You dont have to agree with it, but its enough to aknowledge the logic behind the thinking, these snakes should NEVER be released so they may as well be toys.....

Good questions though and good food for thought!!

   

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