So you answer this, what is necessary??? Then once you accomplish what is necessary, what is your next step, to stop at the bare minimum?



What about what is more then necessary to the animal. Do the animals have a say in this??????? Do they deserve more then necessary????? What do the animals deserve?



What about the potential of each individual animal???????



What about learning what THEY ARE AND what THEY DO, instead of forcing what you want on them. You know the bare minimum?





As far as I can tell, this forum is filled with the general public. As such, has all manner of folks, I guess that includes whiners, and everybodies picking on me, type people. Which is does. If the person dwells on them before the animals, they fall into those two catagories.



The REAL PROBLEM is, when you put a living animal in a BOX, It becomes ALL about the animal, and not about you. Which is what missing here, WHAT ABOUT THE ANIMAL.



Somebody says anything with the interest of the animal in mind, and some thin skinned mamby pamby person gets their undies in a knot.



Man(actually human up) friggin up, grow some nads(so to speak) Its about the animals. Not everything is about you!



Then grow some more of those things, if you don't like what someone says, so the frig what. Ignore what does not suit you. You do know that in all walks of life, somebody is going to say something, all manner of somethings, Do you take everything said to heart?????? I say, good luck with that! Your in for a long haul.



The point, read the intro, this forums is about the keeping and breeding of kingsnakes in captivity. It does not say, this is a forum of thin skinned tender souled people looking to bolster their egos, forum. THis forum is about the animals, can you take a backseat for just a minute?



This is the most silly thought you could ever entertain. A person comes here and says, I have a problem, so they get all manner of suggestions on what they did wrong to get that problem. Then the keeper says, no thats not it, I did everything right. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha That is so common here its pathetic.



Its simple, if something is wrong with a captive animal in your care, YOU DID SOMETHING TO CAUSE IT. PERI friggin iod.



Grow some and listen to the advice, and either do it or not. But to take it personal. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. and I mean good luck for your poor captive snake. As its the one that actually suffers.



These animals are designed to grow reproduce and do it again, that is normal to them. They know how to do that all on there own. They have been doing that since your ancestors were monkies, or not on this earth yet, your pick. So whats the big deal?



I guess its all about attitude, I feel relieved when I can support these animals to attain goals they inherently know how to do. I do not feel special. So of you do it to BE special, in my opinion, don't use animals to feel special. Try to make the animals special.



A lot of you folks just want to feel special and keep animals in boxes to do so. The problem is, you were either special or not, before you put animals in boxes. They do not make that difference.



The reality of these forums is so friggin absurd. All thats here is, letters on a screen, ONE click and those letters are gone. Another click and another subject appears, another click and naked women or men appear. Another click, really nice cars appear. another click and god is all over you.



And you let letters on a screen bother you. hahahahahahahahahaha Rant # 3984737 good luck with that!

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