"Their only responsibility is to let the buyers know what they are getting"





That is only if you are that IRRESPONSIBLE to think that is how the dynamics of this hobby actually works(you know,close-mindedness). See, many crosses go on to be sold as what they best represent down the line as soon as they leave someone's table, but especially when they become of breeding age. THAT is when most of the trouble gets snow-balling, especially the one's that don't look VERY discernably different, and look fairly close to a 100% genuine subspecies of something in this hobby.



These crosses EASILY get sprinkled around throughout collections all around the country, and it happens all the time on a very daily basis. So then they ultimately get bred to what????............ a snake that has the same exact hybrid/cross combination that they themselves were consisted of??...LOL!!!!...PLEEEEASE!.........no, of course they don't. They get get dispersed and bred to many real genuine species/subspecies to only muck-up more authentic types along the way.



The totally ridiculous argument that some keep using about hybrids producing in nature has absolutely nothing to do with anything here whatsoever. Nobody is talking about what nature does, because that is all well and good! We are talking about captive collections, and people knowingly producing snakes on purpose that inevitably get mixed even further into WHATEVER type snakes in the hobby,..knowingly, or un-knowingly(usually UN-knowingly)to create yet more undescernible animals that once again get dispersed into yet more captive-bred collections.



I don't guess any of these people ever really stop to think what actually becomes of any of these crossed lines they produce, because they sure as HELL don't stay the same as they originally were made in their basements. Most simply go out and muck up authentic bloodlines and the integrities of countless lines after they are sold, and not just here and there either, it is by the countless FOLDS!. See, once these are out there, and their offspring is out there, and their offspring's offspring gets out there, they cannot be taken back!





......END OF STORY!



Well, not really, because the sad "story" keeps getting played out countless times from just one generations offspring that gets dispersed, let alone all the countless thousands out there now.



I guess it is the people that try so valiantly to keep the subspecific genetic integrity of a certain species or subspecies they are working with going in spite of all the contrary efforts of many who don't care about anything whatsoever except seeing something goofy popping out of their eggs so they can go muddy-up real stuff as fast as humanly possible,..right??



Too bad some of you folks don't put as much effort into line-breeding for traits that are interesting and might not have ever been seen before. Oh, but that might take a little time..huh??. Yes, why do that when you can cross something and get gratified by a silly "Franken-snake"??



yeah,...."close-minded" my ASS!, close-minded is not giving two craps about the integrity of what you produce, or what they ever get bred to, or what someone mistakes them for being when they look at the offspring and buy them to un-knowingly create more.





~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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