Hi Pat, I didn't say you said not to do it, others did that for you. hahahahahahaha



My reply was about having a larger base of keepers on this forum.



If you actually look at it, you know, third person. Its almost a Fla king forum only. All else gets run out. Either by force, or by lack of interest.



I personally know that one. As for some reason I am not a Fla king fan. Something I ate when I was little caused that, hahahahahahahaha



Actually you were part of that. As a youth, you and I hunted cal kings. They were and are my love. I then moved to Fla and found Fla kings, including goins/mearns and easterns. Well I liked some easterns, only because they looked like Cal kings. hahahahahahahahaha



While I do love all kings, and extensively worked with montane kings, in their habitat. Cal kings are my "first love"



I say that because each one of us has such influences. Yet, we are a group because of the work "kingsnake".



About Hybrids, the more we investigate, the more we see that hybrids are very common in nature. Common being relative. As Joe Forks mentioned.



Its actually part of what we do. About those talks and my early work with crosses. To me, what they produced was not important, it was that they did produce that was.



In that day, they were not suppose to have the physical and behavioral ability to reproduce. Which is why they were diferent species. Physical equals, structure and genetics.



Yet they did and did so very easily. Which told me, they were not so distant, then hybrids, different genus were crossed, it showed that colubrids were not so different from eachother.



We need to realize that the only WALLS concerning this are WALLS we make, nature does have walls, but they are different walls and do have holes in them.



This crap about crosses and hybrids is all about religion, not science. Religion meaning "blind faith" not about god.



So what you get here is, attacking the other religion, even if the central part is KINGSNAKES.



So why is Kruze here, he is a religious Zonata fan, or Jl, a religious thayeri fan, gone crazy and includes all manner of other religions. We should at least kick out the thayeri part, there is another forum for that. Or pyro man, get out, you have your own forum. Should I go on?



The point is, two types of kingsnakes crossing, does not turn them into something else. They are not different then two or more MORPHS.



Even more interesting is, within their religion, they have natural intergrades, you know the mix of two types, hahahahahahahahaha



Again, I went to far, but please understand, its all about entertainment.

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