Actually most here are or were like you. Loners, that is one reason we kept snakes. We did not need the confirmation of the group. We would stand alone.

But once in a group(of loners) we will then clump into and do what was natural in high school, or college, its just people.

Also, I think your missing the point, you call all these things opinions. Well I think whats going on is more then opinions. Its different levels of success.

Like your example of captive reproduction. theres no one level, not in captivity or in nature. There are a million levels. In short, thats how they allow hunting permits. They do not count deer for example, they measure rainfall and plant growth. That will predict the output the deer have.

Again, there are levels of success, not just success. And this bothers people. They(the masses) seem to want everyone to be alike, or their results to be alike. The problem is, the animals were not designed that way.

They surely were not designed to lay the same year after year. They are designed to take advantage of good years, and exsist through bad years. Yet in captivity, we want them to follow a set pattern.

The absolute truth is, to reproduce is the minimum level of success, Not the maximum. The quality of reproduction indicates the success level. In nature its rainfall, prey support.

in captivity success is based on quality of support, only you, the keeper, provide it.

So its not opinions, its methods.

My only envolvement is to keep letting you know that the snakes are MORE then what your doing.

Let me think back, the point of this thread was, a four ft cage is not a large cage for a snake that gets six foot. Its surely not large enough to allow for any manner of inherent choices.

Yes, you can keep them alive in there, get some eggs, but please don't expect normal behavior when the snake cannot leave its own footprint. Cheers

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