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RE: Here's the bottom line

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Posted by: FR at Fri Jul 8 11:01:45 2011   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by FR ]  
   

Heres the point, why do you want to be absolutely certain. You do understand, nothing in the world works that way. You may not be here tomorrow, or keeping snakes or alive.



Wild snakes are not certain they will be there the next day. And that is key to understanding how they behave, without being certain about anything. With so many deleterious varables, they must have some of their own control. That is called behavior.



Take you, what if there were no laws, would you behave differently then you do now?????? not only no laws, but there was nothing against killing other people. Not only nothing against it, but it was encouraged. how would that work???????



If you actually think about it, not dismiss or set your own rules on it. That is exactly what snakes do. In order to live and recruit in a world with only natural laws, they must find and exsist in other individuals that will not hurt them. Then that group of individuals must protect itself from the outside world. This is the base in which all animals work. Even you



The outside world also means individuals of the same species, that is not part of your group. Remember, they do not know what species are, or genus and any of that. They only know whats right in front of them.



A little story, a couple of friends from Europe came over and wanted me to take them and show them some Ridgenosed rattlesnakes. So we went out and I found them some, their first comment was, its nice to see there are still some around. I looked at them dumbfounded and said. Gosh dang, I pointed to the vast hillside and said, the vast majority of these individuals, have no knowlege that people even exsist. They live now like they did for thousands of years.



The vast majority of these snakes never see humans, or cars, or boats or buses, maybe they see a airplane that never lands. Must be a silver bird.



These snakes have a little world, look at their world, not the box you keep them in. If you wanted, you can allow what they would do in their world. That is, if you try.



But you cannot protect them from everything. That is a human concept. That you must be "certain" of what will happen, is without question, a control issue about YOU. Not them.



In the other thread, someone observed all the hatchlings went to the same corner. That is the start of bonding. They stay together tightly for an extended period, and they REMEMBER eachothers scents. They then use that to recognize and follow eachother around their enviornment. Of course, they can and do bond in other ways, but that is without question, the first method they use to bond. With kings, they also place nests in proxsimity to eachother. That means, offspring from several parents will be next to eachother for an period of time. Hmmmmmmm why? And what would you call that?



All you ding dongs know that there are certain hot areas of AC, you know, where you find king after king after king. Well what the heck do you think they are all doing in one spot????? With good mark and recapture studies, we know these animals do not travel far on a daily basis. so whats the chance of wandering snakes finding that AC, day after day, or several times a day. If it was a high percentage, you would be tripping over them, hahahahahahahaha

So, Test it and see. I did, and I did it before most here were born. Cheers


   

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