Feeding kings, and keeping kings in groups are two main things to avoid at ALL COST here, as the outcome is always exactly per your quote above.....a complete "waste of time".

Doug,
Respectfully, I don't understand why you are saying this. if you came and saw my collection and saw how i feed all my kings in groups. I don't see how you could walk away. or maybe you could. But i don't understand why?

For me, this is daily routine. You can imagine the few people that know how to bond snakes and practice this makes see nothing but chaos on the forum and everyones opinions. Because when opinion and theroy meets fact....

....it is the same thing with armchair scientits. there is theory. Sometmes the theorists don't mesh up with what is possible and people have a hard time deciding what side of the fence they are on. thy isten to have way intelligent conversation, but most people are fearful and end up not trying it. So goes the consensus on this forum~"Why take a chance?".


I agree there are lots of variables within this discussion. And some on the "theory' side of the fence bring up some good points. But when others are actuially doing it why try and figure out the "why"? Why do the snakes not eat each other? Why do they share their food? Why do they let go? I don't know. it just works and works well.

Imagine if you tried to explain to someone which was a non- sexual human being. They can come up with lots of reason why sex is not good. But not until you try it will one understand the risks and ickyness thatr is natural and pleasurable.

So when i read about people and how theoi during breeding season is going. they alsways ask about this subject. So tell me how do we make this go away?

They place a un-bonded pair together and they remove them and worry and stress. They go over and over this and keep removing and replacing their snakes. Then they miss the windows of production. I can get up to 3 clucthes per year because my snakes know when and choose when to breed each other. I AM NOT BREEDING THEM. I am taking any guess work out of the process.

It just seems like I am doing the right thing by helping others and hopefully fuurther herpetoculture by sharing what i do. FR goes a step further and actually explains why the snakes do what they do and their natural ecology. tell me how that hurts the old cook book recipe of the last 3 decades. Are we to learn nothing at all?
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