No Kerby, your wrong, I did not say they don't consume eachother, not in the least.

I said, they live in pairs, groups and colonies that do NOT consume eachother. Those are two entirely different things.

Let me change up a bit, while building Audubon zoo in New Orleans, I have a chance to live in the south where there are speckled kings, which are known as snake consumers.

There were many places, but one inparticular by where I lived that I kept an eye on.

It was right next to the mississippi river. Anyway, there were lots of snakes there, lots and lots. Ratsnakes, racers, garters, coachwhips, milksnakes, canebrakes, and speckled kings.

On a nice spring mourning, I would park my car and climb the gate and walk down to old driveway, there was AC here and there, then an old tin building, with lots of tin and tin piles.

on the walk down could see, ten to fifteen kings. If I looked under the ac, I would find a whole bunch more. I would also see racers and garders most commonly. During the time I went there, I found the kings consuming other snakes on several occasions. but not eachother. Again, these types of things are not about one ate this, like one could eat the other and I am sure one will eat the other. Whats important is, what actually occurred.

They did not eat eachother, they ate other snakes. hmmmmm what does that mean? It does not mean it would never occur, its means under normal conditions, it does not occur. NORMAL conditions.

Later in the year, I found many gravid kings in that spot. But not in a single spot, just here and there.

now take pyros, I have places where I can go and find many gravid pyros in a single spot, two or three square meters. I found as many as four gravid females sitting TOGETHER. Most commonly two. I also find many in pairs. that is, an adult male, and an adult female, together for long periods.

Not to call you lairs, but I have watched these groups of pyros stay in the same spot with eachother, for several months a year. I took my kids, my family and we all saw and watched this.

That was years ago, when I was kingsnake guy. Then I became a rattlesnake guy, which is like a kingsnake guy, only you do not need to know that much because rattlesnakes use the surface many times more then kings, which means, they are out a lot.

with our rattlesnakes, we found them in pairs and trios, every month of the year. We also found females in some stage of reproduction, every month of the year. Which is really odd. But it is what it is.

Like other rattlesnakes, our montane rattlesnakes were in the highest density during the winter and were active and out, all winter. But not in dens, like other larger species.

We did this study for 18 years, and over the years we named sites, like the hotel, the resort, etc. We named them for a reason, as the names imply there were lots of individuals in small areas. amoung these areas, we had a couple colonies of pyros, with blacktails here and there. etc. Over the 18 years, we never recorded a individual from one site, at another site. hmmmmmmmmmmmm These sites were only dozens of meters apart in some areas.

We had babies marked, and followed throughout their lifes, often reproducing at very small size and age, many reproduced yearly, others not. or not every year, missing years here and there.

One fun observation was finding an adult male(one of the first ones we tagged) on its tenth year aniversery, 10 inches from where we found it the first time. of course during that ten years, he was found many times, in the general area.

Sir, enough of these observations, make what you think and others here, pretty much worthless. Sorry to say, I value them more then you.

So you want me to think of snakes by how you WANT to keep them. In a plastic box, hibernated in the winter, kept seperately, etc etc etc.

Yes, your snakes will eat eachother, but mainly because they are insane from captive restrictions. And if you think differently, your only thinking about you. Because there is no way in hack, any living creature can be completely boxed up(in plastic boxes), and stay normal. thats a very generalized thought, and a very accurate one. So judging them by whats in your boxes, well, all I can say is, good on you. or ain't that nice. Both of which mean something very different.hahahahahahahaha

so if you think they are whats in your boxes, you sir are very egotistical. Personally, I think they are what I see in the bush.

You know the old saying, if you keep doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results, that makes a fool out of you. Why not try something different and you know, actually learn. Are you tooo fragile to try????????

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