That was interesting. Ok, I do not have a problem with mass producing. I do it with my turtles. I get seven to eight clutches from each female. Thats because I am trying to produce as many as I can. Is that a measure of how healthy they are or a product of me keeping them in the conditions to produce that many eggs. I dont agree with the whole "controling their own destiny" thing you said about Rainers animals. I think you said that they are in plastic boxes and there for he is controling them. He decides how much he will put in for them just as I do. He just puts more. The whole point started with that. There is no right or wrong. If your animals produce eggs or not, grow fast or slow, they are still being controled by the keeper. If you want to let them make choices open the cage and walk away.

This has nothing to do with the fact that Rainer and I dont get along. It is just about the fact that his way or my way is not better than the other. It had to do with attitude not husbandry.

I respect you and what you know. I dont know everything and all this is my opinion only. If you are talking about mass production then I agree with you about Rainers husbandry. How ever I do not agree with it being the best way. Who the hell is anyone to say that. Thats my whole problem with what this started out with. YOu write alot of well known things with a couple questions in between. I understood what you were saying the first time you said it. You keep repeating the same thing I am saying and answering your own questions. You even have me writing like you(really long).

Simple question, is the way you or Rainer or I keep are animals better than the other?

That is the answer Im looking for. Not Kingsnake care sheets or Wives-tales. That is a one word answer.
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