Actually the Ghost/Palomar and the "blackbellies/hypermelanistic" are TWO different recessive genes.

Hubbs freedom in using the "eiseni" in identifying the Mendota/hypermelanistic gene was to hide the locality that it came from (Mendota, CA). Has nothing to do with the Ghost/Palomar cal kings. Hubbs specifically told me that he did not want the name "Mendota" or "Davis" associated with the hypermelanistic gene to prevent wild snakes from over collection.

That came from Hubbs mouth and into my ear.

Just saying.....

Kerby...
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Life is like a bunch of fish in an aquarium....we all get along (bonding) until I want to eat you....and I do.

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• Rarest Cal King - trivirgata, Mon Aug 15 10:44:16 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - rosspadilla, Mon Aug 15 10:59:07 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - rosspadilla, Mon Aug 15 13:54:57 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - bmac, Mon Aug 15 23:49:43 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - Bluerosy, Mon Aug 15 23:57:44 2011
• Actually,.... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 00:12:39 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - bmac, Tue Aug 16 00:32:57 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - Aaron, Tue Aug 16 00:44:31 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - bmac, Tue Aug 16 00:58:17 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 02:48:51 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 02:58:21 2011
• So what exactly... - a153fish, Tue Aug 16 10:23:15 2011
• RE: So what exactly... - DMong, Tue Aug 16 12:14:52 2011
• So now we have........ - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 12:33:37 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 13:14:11 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - DMong, Tue Aug 16 13:48:07 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 14:39:45 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 14:54:19 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - DMong, Tue Aug 16 21:41:00 2011
• Need clarification........ - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 15:11:09 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 16:12:42 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - Dobry, Tue Aug 16 16:30:00 2011
• Cool,...... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 16:55:50 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Tue Aug 16 19:41:23 2011
• The,........ - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 20:07:49 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 20:46:58 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Tue Aug 16 21:17:10 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 22:21:11 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Wed Aug 17 00:03:01 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - Dobry, Tue Aug 16 23:03:58 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 23:45:41 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Wed Aug 17 00:26:39 2011
• Actually,........ - Kerby..., Wed Aug 17 00:38:13 2011
• RE: Actually,........ - bmac, Wed Aug 17 01:36:14 2011
• None of those......... - Kerby..., Wed Aug 17 01:50:19 2011
• RE: None of those......... - bmac, Wed Aug 17 02:48:39 2011
• RE: None of those......... - Dobry, Wed Aug 17 12:36:28 2011
• RE: None of those......... - bmac, Wed Aug 17 15:02:12 2011
• RE: None of those......... - Dobry, Wed Aug 17 16:42:15 2011
• RE: None of those......... - bmac, Wed Aug 17 19:27:23 2011
• RE: None of those......... - Dobry, Thu Aug 18 00:04:04 2011
• RE: None of those......... - bmac, Thu Aug 18 00:42:55 2011
• All very interesting... - davidtobler, Thu Aug 18 04:15:57 2011
• RE: All very interesting... - Rick Staub, Thu Aug 18 05:27:55 2011
• RE: All very interesting... - Dobry, Thu Aug 18 18:26:01 2011
• There ya go...... - Kerby..., Wed Aug 17 01:59:28 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - Aaron, Tue Aug 16 19:11:46 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 20:59:21 2011
• yeah,.......... - DMong, Tue Aug 16 14:02:56 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - Aaron, Tue Aug 16 19:08:15 2011
• That's what I said........... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 19:39:07 2011
• RE: That's what I said........... - bmac, Tue Aug 16 19:48:46 2011
• Well,....... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 20:00:25 2011
• RE: Well,....... - bmac, Tue Aug 16 20:03:26 2011
• I would like to......... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 09:19:36 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 10:34:45 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - trivirgata, Tue Aug 16 12:01:29 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - JoeBudro, Thu Aug 18 20:56:04 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - grnpyro, Tue Aug 16 16:14:20 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 16:25:40 2011
• We have a winner. - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 17:44:52 2011
• Well,.......... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 18:11:53 2011
• RE: Well,.......... - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 18:46:28 2011
• That..... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 19:05:36 2011
• also........... - DMong, Wed Aug 17 10:05:54 2011
• RE: That..... - JoeBudro, Thu Aug 18 20:59:02 2011