We are now throwing out terms that are already being used in the same species.

Brian told me a few years a go in person (before his book came out) that he was going to start calling my Mendotas (hypermelanistics) "eiseni" to divert the locality (Mendota & Davis) attached to the snake in order to stop people from going to those locales and looking for those snakes.

The term Ghost/Palomar refers to a specific recessive gene which IS NOT the same recessive gene of hypermelanistic that occurs in Mendotas and Davis blackbellies). The Davis blackbellies and the Mendotas is the same recessive gene, but is NOT the same gene that is the Ghost Palomars.

Someone needs to breed the snake in this thread to a hypermelanistic to see if it is the same or to a Ghost/Palomar to see if it is the same.

A few years back I bred a Ghost/Palomar to a Mendota hypermeleanistic and produced double hets....they ARE NOT THE SAME gene.



Kerby...

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• Rarest Cal King - trivirgata, Mon Aug 15 10:44:16 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - rosspadilla, Mon Aug 15 10:59:07 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - rosspadilla, Mon Aug 15 13:54:57 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - bmac, Mon Aug 15 23:49:43 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - Bluerosy, Mon Aug 15 23:57:44 2011
• Actually,.... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 00:12:39 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - bmac, Tue Aug 16 00:32:57 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - Aaron, Tue Aug 16 00:44:31 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - bmac, Tue Aug 16 00:58:17 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 02:48:51 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 02:58:21 2011
• So what exactly... - a153fish, Tue Aug 16 10:23:15 2011
• RE: So what exactly... - DMong, Tue Aug 16 12:14:52 2011
• So now we have........ - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 12:33:37 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 13:14:11 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - DMong, Tue Aug 16 13:48:07 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 14:39:45 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 14:54:19 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - DMong, Tue Aug 16 21:41:00 2011
• Need clarification........ - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 15:11:09 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 16:12:42 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - Dobry, Tue Aug 16 16:30:00 2011
• Cool,...... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 16:55:50 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Tue Aug 16 19:41:23 2011
• The,........ - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 20:07:49 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 20:46:58 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Tue Aug 16 21:17:10 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 22:21:11 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Wed Aug 17 00:03:01 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - Dobry, Tue Aug 16 23:03:58 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 23:45:41 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Wed Aug 17 00:26:39 2011
• Actually,........ - Kerby..., Wed Aug 17 00:38:13 2011
• RE: Actually,........ - bmac, Wed Aug 17 01:36:14 2011
• None of those......... - Kerby..., Wed Aug 17 01:50:19 2011
• RE: None of those......... - bmac, Wed Aug 17 02:48:39 2011
• RE: None of those......... - Dobry, Wed Aug 17 12:36:28 2011
• RE: None of those......... - bmac, Wed Aug 17 15:02:12 2011
• RE: None of those......... - Dobry, Wed Aug 17 16:42:15 2011
• RE: None of those......... - bmac, Wed Aug 17 19:27:23 2011
• RE: None of those......... - Dobry, Thu Aug 18 00:04:04 2011
• RE: None of those......... - bmac, Thu Aug 18 00:42:55 2011
• All very interesting... - davidtobler, Thu Aug 18 04:15:57 2011
• RE: All very interesting... - Rick Staub, Thu Aug 18 05:27:55 2011
• RE: All very interesting... - Dobry, Thu Aug 18 18:26:01 2011
• There ya go...... - Kerby..., Wed Aug 17 01:59:28 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - Aaron, Tue Aug 16 19:11:46 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 20:59:21 2011
• yeah,.......... - DMong, Tue Aug 16 14:02:56 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - Aaron, Tue Aug 16 19:08:15 2011
• That's what I said........... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 19:39:07 2011
• RE: That's what I said........... - bmac, Tue Aug 16 19:48:46 2011
• Well,....... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 20:00:25 2011
• RE: Well,....... - bmac, Tue Aug 16 20:03:26 2011
• I would like to......... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 09:19:36 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 10:34:45 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - trivirgata, Tue Aug 16 12:01:29 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - JoeBudro, Thu Aug 18 20:56:04 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - grnpyro, Tue Aug 16 16:14:20 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 16:25:40 2011
• We have a winner. - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 17:44:52 2011
• Well,.......... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 18:11:53 2011
• RE: Well,.......... - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 18:46:28 2011
• That..... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 19:05:36 2011
• also........... - DMong, Wed Aug 17 10:05:54 2011
• RE: That..... - JoeBudro, Thu Aug 18 20:59:02 2011