Kingsnake.com - Herpforum - Need clarification........

Posted by: Kerby... at Tue Aug 16 15:11:09 2011 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by Kerby... ]

We are now throwing out terms that are already being used in the same species.

Brian told me a few years a go in person (before his book came out) that he was going to start calling my Mendotas (hypermelanistics) "eiseni" to divert the locality (Mendota & Davis) attached to the snake in order to stop people from going to those locales and looking for those snakes.

The term Ghost/Palomar refers to a specific recessive gene which IS NOT the same recessive gene of hypermelanistic that occurs in Mendotas and Davis blackbellies). The Davis blackbellies and the Mendotas is the same recessive gene, but is NOT the same gene that is the Ghost Palomars.

Someone needs to breed the snake in this thread to a hypermelanistic to see if it is the same or to a Ghost/Palomar to see if it is the same.

A few years back I bred a Ghost/Palomar to a Mendota hypermeleanistic and produced double hets....they ARE NOT THE SAME gene.

Kerby...

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Rarest Cal King - trivirgata, Mon Aug 15 10:44:16 2011

RE: Rarest Cal King - rosspadilla, Mon Aug 15 10:59:07 2011

RE: Rarest Cal King - rosspadilla, Mon Aug 15 13:54:57 2011

RE: Rarest Cal King - bmac, Mon Aug 15 23:49:43 2011

RE: Rarest Cal King - Bluerosy, Mon Aug 15 23:57:44 2011

Actually,.... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 00:12:39 2011

RE: Actually,.... - bmac, Tue Aug 16 00:32:57 2011

RE: Actually,.... - Aaron, Tue Aug 16 00:44:31 2011

RE: Actually,.... - bmac, Tue Aug 16 00:58:17 2011

RE: Actually,.... - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 02:48:51 2011

RE: Actually,.... - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 02:58:21 2011

So what exactly... - a153fish, Tue Aug 16 10:23:15 2011

RE: So what exactly... - DMong, Tue Aug 16 12:14:52 2011

So now we have........ - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 12:33:37 2011

RE: So now we have........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 13:14:11 2011

RE: So now we have........ - DMong, Tue Aug 16 13:48:07 2011

RE: So now we have........ - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 14:39:45 2011

RE: So now we have........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 14:54:19 2011

RE: So now we have........ - DMong, Tue Aug 16 21:41:00 2011

Need clarification........ - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 15:11:09 2011

RE: Need clarification........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 16:12:42 2011

RE: Need clarification........ - Dobry, Tue Aug 16 16:30:00 2011

Cool,...... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 16:55:50 2011

RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Tue Aug 16 19:41:23 2011

The,........ - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 20:07:49 2011

RE: Need clarification........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 20:46:58 2011

RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Tue Aug 16 21:17:10 2011

RE: Need clarification........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 22:21:11 2011

RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Wed Aug 17 00:03:01 2011

RE: Need clarification........ - Dobry, Tue Aug 16 23:03:58 2011

RE: Need clarification........ - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 23:45:41 2011

RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Wed Aug 17 00:26:39 2011

Actually,........ - Kerby..., Wed Aug 17 00:38:13 2011

RE: Actually,........ - bmac, Wed Aug 17 01:36:14 2011

None of those......... - Kerby..., Wed Aug 17 01:50:19 2011

RE: None of those......... - bmac, Wed Aug 17 02:48:39 2011

RE: None of those......... - Dobry, Wed Aug 17 12:36:28 2011

RE: None of those......... - bmac, Wed Aug 17 15:02:12 2011

RE: None of those......... - Dobry, Wed Aug 17 16:42:15 2011

RE: None of those......... - bmac, Wed Aug 17 19:27:23 2011

RE: None of those......... - Dobry, Thu Aug 18 00:04:04 2011

RE: None of those......... - bmac, Thu Aug 18 00:42:55 2011

All very interesting... - davidtobler, Thu Aug 18 04:15:57 2011

RE: All very interesting... - Rick Staub, Thu Aug 18 05:27:55 2011

RE: All very interesting... - Dobry, Thu Aug 18 18:26:01 2011

There ya go...... - Kerby..., Wed Aug 17 01:59:28 2011

RE: So now we have........ - Aaron, Tue Aug 16 19:11:46 2011

RE: So now we have........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 20:59:21 2011

yeah,.......... - DMong, Tue Aug 16 14:02:56 2011

RE: So now we have........ - Aaron, Tue Aug 16 19:08:15 2011

That's what I said........... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 19:39:07 2011

RE: That's what I said........... - bmac, Tue Aug 16 19:48:46 2011

Well,....... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 20:00:25 2011

RE: Well,....... - bmac, Tue Aug 16 20:03:26 2011

I would like to......... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 09:19:36 2011

RE: Actually,.... - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 10:34:45 2011

RE: Actually,.... - trivirgata, Tue Aug 16 12:01:29 2011

RE: Rarest Cal King - JoeBudro, Thu Aug 18 20:56:04 2011

RE: Rarest Cal King - grnpyro, Tue Aug 16 16:14:20 2011

RE: Rarest Cal King - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 16:25:40 2011

We have a winner. - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 17:44:52 2011

Well,.......... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 18:11:53 2011

RE: Well,.......... - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 18:46:28 2011

That..... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 19:05:36 2011

also........... - DMong, Wed Aug 17 10:05:54 2011

RE: That..... - JoeBudro, Thu Aug 18 20:59:02 2011

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