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Posted by: bmac at Wed Aug 17 00:26:39 2011 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by bmac ]

Dorby,

This is exactly the point that I was trying to make about that gene. I don't like it when people call them hypermelanistic. The point that I was trying to make is that the gene expresses many different looks. The can be HYPERmelanistic, HYPOmelanistic, banded, striped, banded striped combo, speckled, and any combo of the mentioned looks to them. Really they are just a crazy looking snake. The one thing that they all have in common 95% of the time is that they have a black belly. This is obviously the biggest indicator of the gene.

The Eiseni gene that we are talking about is not shown in 100% of the population. We find way more normal banded king than we do Eisenis. The odds are about 1 in every 3 to 4 kings we find will be Eiseni.

I have heard many different names that describes the recessive gene in question.

Here are a couple of them:
Medonta, Davis, Delta, hypermelanistic, Eiseni, and Black Belly.

Here is a ventral shot

I hope I have made more sense out of this thread than I did the other one.

Thanks
Bobby

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Rarest Cal King - trivirgata, Mon Aug 15 10:44:16 2011

RE: Rarest Cal King - rosspadilla, Mon Aug 15 10:59:07 2011

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RE: Rarest Cal King - bmac, Mon Aug 15 23:49:43 2011

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Actually,.... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 00:12:39 2011

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RE: Actually,.... - Aaron, Tue Aug 16 00:44:31 2011

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RE: Actually,.... - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 02:58:21 2011

So what exactly... - a153fish, Tue Aug 16 10:23:15 2011

RE: So what exactly... - DMong, Tue Aug 16 12:14:52 2011

So now we have........ - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 12:33:37 2011

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RE: So now we have........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 14:54:19 2011

RE: So now we have........ - DMong, Tue Aug 16 21:41:00 2011

Need clarification........ - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 15:11:09 2011

RE: Need clarification........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 16:12:42 2011

RE: Need clarification........ - Dobry, Tue Aug 16 16:30:00 2011

Cool,...... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 16:55:50 2011

RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Tue Aug 16 19:41:23 2011

The,........ - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 20:07:49 2011

RE: Need clarification........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 20:46:58 2011

RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Tue Aug 16 21:17:10 2011

RE: Need clarification........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 22:21:11 2011

RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Wed Aug 17 00:03:01 2011

RE: Need clarification........ - Dobry, Tue Aug 16 23:03:58 2011

RE: Need clarification........ - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 23:45:41 2011

RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Wed Aug 17 00:26:39 2011

Actually,........ - Kerby..., Wed Aug 17 00:38:13 2011

RE: Actually,........ - bmac, Wed Aug 17 01:36:14 2011

None of those......... - Kerby..., Wed Aug 17 01:50:19 2011

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All very interesting... - davidtobler, Thu Aug 18 04:15:57 2011

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RE: All very interesting... - Dobry, Thu Aug 18 18:26:01 2011

There ya go...... - Kerby..., Wed Aug 17 01:59:28 2011

RE: So now we have........ - Aaron, Tue Aug 16 19:11:46 2011

RE: So now we have........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 20:59:21 2011

yeah,.......... - DMong, Tue Aug 16 14:02:56 2011

RE: So now we have........ - Aaron, Tue Aug 16 19:08:15 2011

That's what I said........... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 19:39:07 2011

RE: That's what I said........... - bmac, Tue Aug 16 19:48:46 2011

Well,....... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 20:00:25 2011

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I would like to......... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 09:19:36 2011

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RE: Rarest Cal King - JoeBudro, Thu Aug 18 20:56:04 2011

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RE: Rarest Cal King - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 16:25:40 2011

We have a winner. - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 17:44:52 2011

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RE: Well,.......... - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 18:46:28 2011

That..... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 19:05:36 2011

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