"While I am not saying that your observations are wrong, I am saying that there is an explanation that can be tested with carefully planned breeding experiments, and what you will see is the variation you see for the Eiseni "locality" is regulated by the independent expression of several genes OR different mutations within the same gene. The fact that several of these traits are commonly found in the same snake, and locality suggests that this cluster of genes (or multiple mutations within a gene) are often inherited together. "

"However the fact that they can also be isolated from eachother clearly shows that they are independent mutations/phenoypes."

I agree 100% with your points here. I support the idea that in this case there could be different mutations within the same gene. This whole time I've been trying to say that there is sooooo much more here going on.

I would be very interested to see how some of your own experimentation turn out. Although, I think it would be very hard for you to come up with any definite conclusions with such a small sample size. Do you have any wild caught animals? If the animals in your collection where captive bred then your data would be incomplete without a control.

Thanks!!
Bobby

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• Rarest Cal King - trivirgata, Mon Aug 15 10:44:16 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - rosspadilla, Mon Aug 15 10:59:07 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - rosspadilla, Mon Aug 15 13:54:57 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - bmac, Mon Aug 15 23:49:43 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - Bluerosy, Mon Aug 15 23:57:44 2011
• Actually,.... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 00:12:39 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - bmac, Tue Aug 16 00:32:57 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - Aaron, Tue Aug 16 00:44:31 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - bmac, Tue Aug 16 00:58:17 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 02:48:51 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 02:58:21 2011
• So what exactly... - a153fish, Tue Aug 16 10:23:15 2011
• RE: So what exactly... - DMong, Tue Aug 16 12:14:52 2011
• So now we have........ - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 12:33:37 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 13:14:11 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - DMong, Tue Aug 16 13:48:07 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 14:39:45 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 14:54:19 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - DMong, Tue Aug 16 21:41:00 2011
• Need clarification........ - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 15:11:09 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 16:12:42 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - Dobry, Tue Aug 16 16:30:00 2011
• Cool,...... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 16:55:50 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Tue Aug 16 19:41:23 2011
• The,........ - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 20:07:49 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 20:46:58 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Tue Aug 16 21:17:10 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 22:21:11 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Wed Aug 17 00:03:01 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - Dobry, Tue Aug 16 23:03:58 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 23:45:41 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Wed Aug 17 00:26:39 2011
• Actually,........ - Kerby..., Wed Aug 17 00:38:13 2011
• RE: Actually,........ - bmac, Wed Aug 17 01:36:14 2011
• None of those......... - Kerby..., Wed Aug 17 01:50:19 2011
• RE: None of those......... - bmac, Wed Aug 17 02:48:39 2011
• RE: None of those......... - Dobry, Wed Aug 17 12:36:28 2011
• RE: None of those......... - bmac, Wed Aug 17 15:02:12 2011
• RE: None of those......... - Dobry, Wed Aug 17 16:42:15 2011
• RE: None of those......... - bmac, Wed Aug 17 19:27:23 2011
• RE: None of those......... - Dobry, Thu Aug 18 00:04:04 2011
• RE: None of those......... - bmac, Thu Aug 18 00:42:55 2011
• All very interesting... - davidtobler, Thu Aug 18 04:15:57 2011
• RE: All very interesting... - Rick Staub, Thu Aug 18 05:27:55 2011
• RE: All very interesting... - Dobry, Thu Aug 18 18:26:01 2011
• There ya go...... - Kerby..., Wed Aug 17 01:59:28 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - Aaron, Tue Aug 16 19:11:46 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 20:59:21 2011
• yeah,.......... - DMong, Tue Aug 16 14:02:56 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - Aaron, Tue Aug 16 19:08:15 2011
• That's what I said........... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 19:39:07 2011
• RE: That's what I said........... - bmac, Tue Aug 16 19:48:46 2011
• Well,....... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 20:00:25 2011
• RE: Well,....... - bmac, Tue Aug 16 20:03:26 2011
• I would like to......... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 09:19:36 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 10:34:45 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - trivirgata, Tue Aug 16 12:01:29 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - JoeBudro, Thu Aug 18 20:56:04 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - grnpyro, Tue Aug 16 16:14:20 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 16:25:40 2011
• We have a winner. - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 17:44:52 2011
• Well,.......... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 18:11:53 2011
• RE: Well,.......... - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 18:46:28 2011
• That..... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 19:05:36 2011
• also........... - DMong, Wed Aug 17 10:05:54 2011
• RE: That..... - JoeBudro, Thu Aug 18 20:59:02 2011