I don't have any wild caught snakes from that area, but I am pretty sure that others have already shown most of these traits to be independent mutations by isolating them and line breeding just for aberrant or the darker form, ect.

I hatched both hypermel/banded and hypermel/aberrant stripped from a normal banded het hypermelanistic male to a banded hypermelanistic female I got them both from Kerby, it was a first clutch and small a few eggs went bad and I only hatched two. The aberrant was a surprise.

The thing is this is a slow process. I will need to backcross both parents and hatch several clutches to see what else is hiding in there. Then anytime you want to bring in a new individual there you have the same thing. It will be several years of experiments, but we are lucky as Kerby has done a lot of work for us, and he is here to tell about it.

I think his experience is very valuable in this, cause he has more than me, I know a lot of theory, and I want to test it out!

I am interested in getting some wildcaughts from that area.
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• Rarest Cal King - trivirgata, Mon Aug 15 10:44:16 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - rosspadilla, Mon Aug 15 10:59:07 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - rosspadilla, Mon Aug 15 13:54:57 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - bmac, Mon Aug 15 23:49:43 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - Bluerosy, Mon Aug 15 23:57:44 2011
• Actually,.... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 00:12:39 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - bmac, Tue Aug 16 00:32:57 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - Aaron, Tue Aug 16 00:44:31 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - bmac, Tue Aug 16 00:58:17 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 02:48:51 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 02:58:21 2011
• So what exactly... - a153fish, Tue Aug 16 10:23:15 2011
• RE: So what exactly... - DMong, Tue Aug 16 12:14:52 2011
• So now we have........ - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 12:33:37 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 13:14:11 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - DMong, Tue Aug 16 13:48:07 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 14:39:45 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 14:54:19 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - DMong, Tue Aug 16 21:41:00 2011
• Need clarification........ - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 15:11:09 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 16:12:42 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - Dobry, Tue Aug 16 16:30:00 2011
• Cool,...... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 16:55:50 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Tue Aug 16 19:41:23 2011
• The,........ - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 20:07:49 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 20:46:58 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Tue Aug 16 21:17:10 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 22:21:11 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Wed Aug 17 00:03:01 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - Dobry, Tue Aug 16 23:03:58 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 23:45:41 2011
• RE: Need clarification........ - bmac, Wed Aug 17 00:26:39 2011
• Actually,........ - Kerby..., Wed Aug 17 00:38:13 2011
• RE: Actually,........ - bmac, Wed Aug 17 01:36:14 2011
• None of those......... - Kerby..., Wed Aug 17 01:50:19 2011
• RE: None of those......... - bmac, Wed Aug 17 02:48:39 2011
• RE: None of those......... - Dobry, Wed Aug 17 12:36:28 2011
• RE: None of those......... - bmac, Wed Aug 17 15:02:12 2011
• RE: None of those......... - Dobry, Wed Aug 17 16:42:15 2011
• RE: None of those......... - bmac, Wed Aug 17 19:27:23 2011
• RE: None of those......... - Dobry, Thu Aug 18 00:04:04 2011
• RE: None of those......... - bmac, Thu Aug 18 00:42:55 2011
• All very interesting... - davidtobler, Thu Aug 18 04:15:57 2011
• RE: All very interesting... - Rick Staub, Thu Aug 18 05:27:55 2011
• RE: All very interesting... - Dobry, Thu Aug 18 18:26:01 2011
• There ya go...... - Kerby..., Wed Aug 17 01:59:28 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - Aaron, Tue Aug 16 19:11:46 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 20:59:21 2011
• yeah,.......... - DMong, Tue Aug 16 14:02:56 2011
• RE: So now we have........ - Aaron, Tue Aug 16 19:08:15 2011
• That's what I said........... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 19:39:07 2011
• RE: That's what I said........... - bmac, Tue Aug 16 19:48:46 2011
• Well,....... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 20:00:25 2011
• RE: Well,....... - bmac, Tue Aug 16 20:03:26 2011
• I would like to......... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 09:19:36 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 10:34:45 2011
• RE: Actually,.... - trivirgata, Tue Aug 16 12:01:29 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - JoeBudro, Thu Aug 18 20:56:04 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - grnpyro, Tue Aug 16 16:14:20 2011
• RE: Rarest Cal King - rosspadilla, Tue Aug 16 16:25:40 2011
• We have a winner. - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 17:44:52 2011
• Well,.......... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 18:11:53 2011
• RE: Well,.......... - Bluerosy, Tue Aug 16 18:46:28 2011
• That..... - Kerby..., Tue Aug 16 19:05:36 2011
• also........... - DMong, Wed Aug 17 10:05:54 2011
• RE: That..... - JoeBudro, Thu Aug 18 20:59:02 2011