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Posted by: Bluerosy at Thu Aug 18 18:33:52 2011 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by Bluerosy ]

Or it could be most snakes are kept in a mrginal enviroment at best. Dehydration, even temps (insted of thermregulating), inprper substratem etc..

So just because a snake CAN eat in 78F and live with newspaper and a water bowl in a plastic box, does not mean that all snakes can. It is also far from optimal. And that is what FR is trying to make peopl do, is think. You from anyone els ehere should see that by now. but for some reason you keep trying to break up the discussions.

maybe the fact that some feed and digest in the worst conditions keeps them going.That is. like a person on life support practically.. That is why i see people with kings that die early, shut off food, get sick etc.

They (the kingsnakes) are tough snakes compared to other species of snakes. They can survice in a more bullet proof enviroment. Not so with other sopecies.

that is why kings, milsk corn are so popular. they are easy to keep in marginal conditions.

So, SO..maaaybe, the vibrations stimuated someting that makes them eat and survice under poor conditions. just enough to digest and grow. That is why some eat from the beginning and some don't. Once they start eating. We think that we are successful. Whts next for the kings, SHOCK treatment? twirl them above our heads to get them to eat??? LOL!

I will use a recent example. I sold amkingsnake to someone who has other snakes, Though he has been keeping snakes he knows very little of husbandry for snakes. he is more like a pert keeper. Afte rhe got the snakes i sent him he said he never saw a kingsnakes with afeeding response like mine. All of my kings have a great feeding response. But i guess if you keep the kings at one temperature and feed them once per week. they tend to slow down from what is natural. They may even seem lethgic and "tame" to the poing of hardly having a feeding response. they just sit there and survive. Kinda like being locked in a room with soup and bread for 20 years. Would survive? maybe some people can. others would crack and not survive,

okay i know comparing people to snakes is bad.Buy for you Doug i have to use people examples because you clearly don't understand snakes yet. ..just saying. When certain snakes don't eat and others in the same clucth do. Why assume they are mental and need some unatural stimili to feed (or get going on feeding) the snakes are telling us something is inadequate. WHY BLAME THE SNAKES?

Work with some harder to keep species and you will know what i am talking about.Pick a species no one has worked with yet and so that you cannot copy what they found out! Kings, corns- milksnakes ect are pretty tough. Other species not so. Otherise we would all be keeping them as well.
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These animals live in nature, without you. They know when to eat, when not to eat, how much to eat, etc. Why do you think they cannot do that in captivity? They do know, you are suppose to support what THEY DO, not hold back food because you keep them at temps they would not pick.
Frank Retes