Wonderful thread Tony.....it's not just with alterna buddy, but you knew that already. We can examine this from all sorts of angles and perspectives -- bottom line is that there will always be *ickheads, both academic and non, that will stick to their position and be unmoved. I have even grasped a better acceptance of hybridization, at least the naturally-occurring ones anyway. I've been reading a number of articles lately about such occurrences in various species up to and including sharks off the coast of Australia. Moreover, a great article just yesterday about "spontaneous births" in some animals, in this case a rattlesnake that had not bred in FIVE years, thus, SPERM RETENTION. LOL. Yep, we humans know everything just by observation over a few decades or by a graduate science lab. RIGHT. How nature surprises us.



Indeed, that night was fantastic Tony. And that's the bottom line; we do what we do because we are intrigued, mystified, and find passion in herps.....and some even moreso by making a career out of it. And, of course, sometimes finding kindred spirit in one another, particularly with those that don't forget where they came from early on. Wish it could always be that simple. But I do agree Tony, there IS more at play in the grand scheme of things.
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