>>John I think your assesment of the origins of the Granite line are probably true. I hesitate to call mine granites until further breeding proves it out. Plus if the Galvan's line pre-dates the European line it may not have ever been selectively bred like the European line and it may take a few generations to bring it out in the Galvan snakes. Hopefully time will tell.


Mark Kenderdine told me years ago that you could line breed the split saddled Mex Mex and create granites.......I haven't done it more than two generations but if I get eggs this year from them it will be third generation..

Vaclav in Czech Republic line bred some that I believe came from Helmut up the line and thought he created some of the first granites there.

If you look at Shores/Soderberg's granites that came from Dave and Tracy Barker (Europe also) they seem to be a little less refined. Mark Bell's and Brian's throw more ultra granites since they seem to be more refined......
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John Lassiter
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