But when messing with a snake with only Melanin and Xanthin I still don't think an anery can exist unless hybridized.......These california kings being called anery have a melanin (black) mutation not a red mutation......

hveing caught and selectivly bred what people refer to as Balack and white desert kings are not really balck and white. First they do have yellow up their sides and that can be selctivly bred to reduce that yellow pigment on the sides.

Second the balck bands people refer to as black are really brown. or a dark chocolate brown. It just looks like that to the eye.

So back to my question. When does dark brown become chocolate brown and then rust and then a dark red or orange? It is all the same.

But recessive traits should be kept seprate and not determeined by the phenotype or color of the animal. if you breed a T negative cal king to a mostly yellow snake it can appear to be hypo. And so on. it is the SEPERATE arecessive traits we should stick to naming and not allow the phonotype to rule.

So IMO, a anery has some rust, brown, yellow bleeding through. And axanthic will not show signs of this red or yellow pigment. At least not in the extent that an anery does.


BTW, there is a photo in Dr. Bern bectels book of a tri color that he calls axanthic.
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• anery Cal. kings????? - DMong, Fri Mar 30 20:12:22 2012
• RE: anery Cal. kings????? - Jlassiter, Fri Mar 30 21:05:19 2012
• RE: anery Cal. kings????? - DMong, Fri Mar 30 22:41:10 2012
• RE: anery Cal. kings????? - rosspadilla, Fri Mar 30 22:53:10 2012
• RE: anery Cal. kings????? - Jlassiter, Fri Mar 30 23:35:04 2012
• RE: anery Cal. kings????? - rosspadilla, Sat Mar 31 00:59:54 2012
• RE: anery Cal. kings????? - a153fish, Sat Mar 31 13:55:21 2012
• No....... - Kerby..., Sat Mar 31 14:18:33 2012
• RE: No....... - Jlassiter, Sat Mar 31 16:17:23 2012
• Well,........... - Kerby..., Sat Mar 31 17:16:07 2012
• RE: Well,........... - Jlassiter, Sat Mar 31 17:21:41 2012
• I've never seen........ - Kerby..., Sat Mar 31 18:09:26 2012
• RE: anery Cal. kings????? - Bluerosy, Sat Mar 31 14:25:32 2012
• RE: anery Cal. kings????? - Jlassiter, Sat Mar 31 16:14:56 2012
• RE: anery Cal. kings????? - Bluerosy, Sat Mar 31 17:36:49 2012
• RE: anery Cal. kings????? - Bluerosy, Sat Mar 31 17:49:00 2012
• RE: anery Cal. kings????? - mikefedzen, Sat Mar 31 18:35:23 2012
• RE: anery Cal. kings????? - Bluerosy, Sat Mar 31 18:47:20 2012
• RE: anery Cal. kings????? - mikefedzen, Sat Mar 31 18:49:12 2012
• RE: anery Cal. kings????? - Bluerosy, Sat Mar 31 18:44:57 2012
• RE: anery Cal. kings????? - rosspadilla, Tue Apr 17 16:25:52 2012
• ditto that... n/p - DMong, Sat Mar 31 10:33:48 2012
• RE: anery Cal. kings????? - jeff_serrao, Sat Mar 31 22:45:23 2012
• RE: anery Cal. kings????? - rosspadilla, Sun Apr 1 00:19:42 2012
• RE: anery Cal. kings????? - DMong, Sun Apr 1 01:43:35 2012