One more thing. I certainly am not, nor ever will be a cutting edge guru. Dont care to be either. However, I spend LOTS of time in the field as I am retired and herp four to five times A WEEK all spring, summer , and fall. I have yet to witness bonding. I have found this---which I posted before. (once again, not saying boding does not happen at all, as it MIGHT, but I have never seen it in kingsnakes and milks in MY AREA)

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