"So Tony, I have to ask, why do you think fast growth and high reproductive effort is not within their natural capabilities."

I don't think I even inferred that and I'm not throwing stones at your approach Frank. I'm looking to incorporate what I see as positive elements of both approaches. I don't see why that is so hard to understand or or why an approach were you get consistent average results is considered bad.

In any case sorry for make the bad Frank come out! That made me laugh btw.
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