And i have to add my 2cents about bonding:
I am keeping my snakes in groups(L.m.greeri &thayeri,L.alterna) and never had trouble with that...but it works only with 1 male per group!2 adult males fight without end !Anyone ever have longtime expierience with groups that had 2 or more adult males?
If you can answer this with YES, please explain me your setup?!
Only had two males(pyros) in one cage for several months; kept putting smaller "female" Zuni in with other two as part of trio but she was so unhappy, then I discovered she was a "he", and was afraid of the larger male.

Happy at last! The little one is the male Zuni, getting it on with one of my big females. I think in the wild the males would be able to drive the lesser one off, but in a cage there is no place to go, hence too much stress.
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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.

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