Tony and John,

I also think that your temps are too high. It just occurred to me when I read down below that you were both from down south.

I have some beautiful fertile clutches from two mex mex females and two getula females. I kept heat on them all winter and fed them all winter. Room temps average 65F or so.

The mex mex are kept (a group of 4 individuals) on deep sandy substrate and have a single 65 watt flood on 24/7. So far I have two very nice clutches (5 eggs and 10 eggs) from two females.

The getula (a splendida pair and cal king pair) are kept in pairs in a BP-70 tub style rack. They also have heat cable with a thermostat and fed all winter. The cal king female laid 7 nice eggs and the splendida laid 10 eggs. So far all the eggs look good, and I can get 100% hatches nesting them in these tubs.

However it is harder in general to nest the females and consistently get nice fertile eggs in the tubs than with deep substrate. I know this because the females don't look as "spent" after laying when nested properly.

It is pretty funny, I knew my small mex mex female was gravid and laid about 6 weeks ago, but the other larger female was late in shed, and then after she shed I started wondering if she was even gravid, it was weird and I thought to myself WTF?

Within a few days a friend came by and wanted me to show off the snakes to his kids, so the mex mex cage was closest, and I went in and dug them up (something I usually never do), and walla 10 beautiful eggs! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA - The female you could never tell!
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