After cleaning up again after the childish posts and snits here I am left pondering what is the best action. I am accused of playing favorites. Really with the level of messages hidden, I have no clue how you can determine that but oh well, say what you will. I have had a beer with Frank Retes and spent a long time wandering the Daytona show with Doug Mong. I enjoyed both's company greatly and recognize their pros and cons. I have felt for years under previous leadership that moderation was too tight. I am after all a herper. I keep hybrids, I believe in proper tracking of hybrid bloodlines and not breeding things you are not sure on the lineage, I use racks, I use "proper" caging, I cage separately and I have also used communal caging. I do this because I love reptiles. I do not do this because I love children. I vote both republican and democrat. I am an atheist who does not have a problem saying "Merry Christmas" to someone. I am a vast pile of opposites.

What I am not is tolerant.

This is ending if I end up putting each and every one of you in a time out ban. This is ending if I have to ban each and every one of you. I do not care if you like me but you will respect me. This is a place to discuss Kingsnakes. This is a place to share in the enjoyment of snakes and reptiles. This is not a place to take personal pot shots.

You do not have to like someone to hold common ground. There are many people day in and day out that I deal with that I loathe. We have common ground. I can hate someone as a person and respect what they are doing. I can also hate someone's business practices but like them outside that world. You all need to learn it and learn it NOW.

We are at the point where there will be no second chances. I am done.
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Cindy Steinle
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