I understand Gerard, you know about your opinion about captive and wild.
Where we disagree is what is the same and what is different.

You said, EVERYTHING, and thats the point, no sir, everything does not translate over and surely there is no need for everything to carry over.

All we want from nature is what allows the successful ones to be successful. And its not even about reproduction.

For instance, how come wild reptiles do not have problems with parasites, yet they re-infect themselves with every feeding.

Why do wild reptiles have such a strong ability to heal from wounds and are so resistant to disease?

What supports those are what is of interest to me.

What supports stable and strong reproduction, is of interest.

We surely do not have to duplicate predator loads and anything else the hinders the animals from succeeding.

What we do want to duplicate is base behavior that allows and supports these animals in captivity.

I do agree with NoBody, the word choices really sucks. IT really needs to be defined, like, whos choices, what choices.etc.

I would bet if you could put something in your cage and your turtles would lay eggs left and right, you would do it, yes? Well there is. Cheers

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