Rainer, you and I have proved that you can keep kings together and have done so for far longer then most of these people have been alive. AS in, its proven, those folks see it, they know it. But its not the point, to give these animals, inherent behavior, abilities to choose, etc. takes away from those folks need to control.

Most of these folks are nice people and if they owned the fact that snakes are also individuals, with snake-aloties(personalities) and actually were social and had a need to be social, it would indeed hurt those people.



So what do they do Rainer, they defend their wishes tooth and claw. They dismiss whats been proven to them. They defy logic and proof. In other words, they want snakes to be nothing more then a mass of cells they can totally control in a way that suits the people and has nothing to do with the animals. Its all about the people and what is natural to them and it is. Rainer, you are fully aware that history has shown that human society has a need to control. Its part of being social. Social is also reason to kill/murder/destroy anything not in the social group, and that includes animals. They are the same, they include individuals and exclude other individuals. End part 2

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