here is the way i see it having only been in to herps for 12 years now and my mom for 17 or so we now own and run for the last 5 years a pet store she worked at for 6 years before we bought it. when we first got into the store everyone from the herp society was great really nice help us find other local breeders for animals all was good until it got bigger and the no longer need us they traded animals amongst them selves and found a member to breed all the mice and rats found wholesalers to sell directly to them and then the stores became compation. that was the begining of the we are god attitude. which is a bummer because where did they get their first reptile more than likely our store along with over 75% of thier members. so it's sad to say such a great thing has just become a giant ego trip and their way is the only right way. i hope someday the herp society's will be fun and friendly again insted of self rightous arogant heaven for know it alls...

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