>>"Not trying to... I don't want any money . Period. >>

>>I do not want money period. So don't send any period."

"Again here are my goals;

1.Unite all herp soscieties under one flag. Get as many people involved as possible. Get organized, and start fighting back.

Lobby, and FUND RAISE for that effort"

Now unless you have a bunch of kids your plaining sending out to wash cars for that money, I think its safe to assume you somehow were thinking of trying to solicite it from other herpers. If so as I said its money better spent with local herp societys or PIJAC.





You can stop barking about Hitler. All I was trying to do was offer you some sound advice so you wouldnt waste your time.



"And right now this thing would just be a list of names that could be rallied to write letters, and make phone calls, and start using the bloody brains that god gave us and DO SOMTHING!"

Humm I guess I have done nothing then huh anyway. Neither you nor I need a list of names such as that. In private hands the law could find some generic excuse to raid a home and get that list. With herp societys or PIJAC it wont happen. Were better off with a list of societys that anyone could pull from the net then a list of names that in the wrong hands could become a target list. aside from that "the list" has already been tried and went no wherewith all the wackos out there these days 9 out of 10 people got more sense the to hand out contact info to strangers.



"We say "yes I can". And then we get busy and do it." If that is what you are going to do, go for it.

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"In the Army we used to say "lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way. If you cannot be a part of the solution,...PLEASE don't be a part of the problem." Maybe you guys said get the hell out of the way when I was in the army we said get the F$#k out of the way. As far as me being part of the problem I have been in this fight alot longer then you!!

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">>What we need is a new spirit. A new way of looking at this thing." dude look I have been in this fight alot longer then you. Its nice to see you excitment over this but dont be so niave. The spirit of this industry is money along time ago it was for the love of the animals but out popped and albino, someone figured out they could carge 10g's for it and people would buy it and boom, these animals took on a whole new look. You just need to calm donw a little bit.



"A spirit of fighting for what we believe in. I beleive in this. I beleive in the power of good people getting together for an important cause. And because they got together, they were able to make things better for themselves."



I do to, im speaking to ya from experiance, so calm you horses a little bit and listen. Your all wound up wanting to run out and save the world, its not going to happen over night nor the way you want. One last thing you say your not a memeber of a society why should anyone follow you in creating one? Anyway Im tired, good night
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