down below.I got in a little late and its already buried.



I really liked alot of the comments that a few of you made but there were others that need to be straightened out.

The Hypo stillwater bull was brought up several times (a great example b.t.w)and I have used it recently in another forum as well.I think it was Tom (Forgive me if I am wrong)that said he hopes that they (I guess that would be me?)weren't going to be breeding it into other morphs?Why not?It is so much better looking than the generic line of hypo.I will try and break it down for you guys.



Until now the stillwater bulls have come from a single pair of bullsnakes that were rescued from a rattlesnake roundup in stillwater Oklahoma.If you have noticed there are no "hets"for hypo stillwater bulls? We had this happen on the pit forum last year.There is a guy (I won't name names)that advertises bullsnakes that are het for "stillwater hypo".Once you have bred a stillwater to a non stillwater they can no longer be a stillwater in any way shape or form?period!

Now,Thats the locale end of it.



Now,on the other side of the coin(morph side)you can breed a stillwater to a miami county kansas axanthic (locale of no importance)and produce TRUE dbl het for ghost bullsnakes.The reason I say true is that what we call ghost bulls in the hobby today are really just hypo whitesided.The same is true with the snows in the hobby today,they are just albino whitesided.We could make actual snows or probably blizzards since we have axanthics.We are still going to keep breeding the true stillwaters and the true axanthics to always have the locale animals but to have the cool morphs as well within the same groups is the best of both worlds.



The stillwaters have alreay been bred to the Kingsville Reds and to a couple others (top secret) so hold on to your morph butts in a couple years.I just wanted to see where you guys stood cause most of you know where I do when it comes to all the real hybrids,Freeze them or cobra food.



Sorry,I know this is the kingsnake forum and I talked about pits but thats the way it goes sometimes.



L8r shannon

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