Sounds cool. Last year my wife and I went with this other couple night driving at Whitewater. They were from the club, maybe you have met them, Steve and his mom Betty, they are really into turtles. We didn't see anything much and it seemed he got bored really fast. In the past we have just gone road cruising. I'm mostly inerested in snakes and my wife likes geckos. Haven't been up by Anza for a while. We'll be busy next couple of weeks , my son is coming home from the army. Oh yah we live in Menifee. What kind of herps are you into

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