.....you will also have to add to that list unatural intergrades ( overlapping subspecies to subspecies breeding in captivity)like the eastern x brooksi, brooksi x goini ect that we discussed so much in this forum (unless you forgot and want to call them "intergrades")lol. Then the greenish rat that has been crossing in nature for generations is comparable to the wide band eastern you say are crossed with goini. Why call them easterns when they are natural or unatural intergrades? Thats why Kevin Enge called them "Bumblebee kings".



So you are going to have to relist natural and unatural definitions for all those terms you listed. Its not as simple as you put it.



There was a great post by Paul Hollander or Chris Harrison (I can't remember who) a while back on this and I am trying to find it.

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• About "pure" and crosses and hybrids and other such Stuff - FR, Mon Jul 4 12:58:48 2005
• RE: About "pure" and crosses and hybrids and other such Stuff - Nokturnel Tom, Mon Jul 4 14:12:35 2005
• RE: Good questions Tom - FR, Mon Jul 4 21:17:08 2005
• more stuff.... - Nokturnel Tom, Mon Jul 4 23:38:16 2005
• RE: About "pure" and crosses and hybrids and other such Stuff - Keith Hillson, Tue Jul 5 08:32:40 2005
• You left out a few terms - bluerosy, Tue Jul 5 10:02:45 2005
• RE: About "pure" and crosses and hybrids and other such Stuff - Nokturnel Tom, Tue Jul 5 10:47:01 2005
• RE: About "pure" and crosses and hybrids and other such Stuff - Keith Hillson, Tue Jul 5 13:24:00 2005
• Hyllson has it partially correct. Or does he? - bluerosy, Tue Jul 5 14:19:06 2005
• Great post Rainer - Nokturnel Tom, Tue Jul 5 14:31:01 2005
• RE: Great post Rainer - bluerosy, Tue Jul 5 14:47:34 2005
• RE: Great post Rainer - Nokturnel Tom, Tue Jul 5 14:57:16 2005
• RE: Great post Rainer - Keith Hillson, Tue Jul 5 16:07:35 2005
• Point taken Keith..more - Nokturnel Tom, Tue Jul 5 17:18:02 2005
• Here is what I work off of - Tony D, Tue Jul 5 12:37:43 2005
• Very nice Tony. I like this description. - bluerosy, Tue Jul 5 12:56:00 2005
• RE: Here is what I work off of - Nokturnel Tom, Tue Jul 5 14:25:28 2005
• RE: Here is what I work off of - Tony D, Tue Jul 5 18:26:19 2005
• RE: Hmmnmmmm I have to say - FR, Wed Jul 6 09:26:17 2005
• RE: Hmmnmmmm I have to say - Tony D, Wed Jul 6 11:06:34 2005
• I hear ya Tony but.... - Nokturnel Tom, Wed Jul 6 13:14:27 2005
• RE: I hear ya Tony but.... - Tony D, Thu Jul 7 07:21:27 2005
• Well said.... - Nokturnel Tom, Thu Jul 7 09:37:33 2005
• RE: About "pure" and crosses and hybrids and other such Stuff - Phil Peak, Mon Jul 4 15:57:18 2005
• RE: About "pure" and crosses and hybrids and other such Stuff - Tony D, Mon Jul 4 16:21:04 2005