Thank you both for the response. I have been photographing the herps at the center for about two years as i have time, but i do stick to the trails, and although i do carry a hook, and have had several problems with the center staff about it, i convince them i have no bag, and im not collecting. But i do want to get off the trails and into the thick stuff. Im hopeing my job will allow more extra time soon so i can join up, and enjoy the membership. Skinner

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