I heard from Chip, he asked the guy who collected the Goini to come look at this forum. He "the collector" was pissed as hell about all the drama and said everyone can go take a hike if they refuse to believe it. He has been to his spot a few times a year for many years now. He has not found a Goini there in over 8 years. When he found the female that produced the Amel he flipped a small board in a dried up drainage ditch expecting to find nothing, as at the time he was not even looking for snakes...but low and behold the two snakes were under the board. You know the rest of the story. It is not a man made snake, and that is that. If anyone wants to argue with me I would really prefer to do this face to face. Since I was asked to keep the rest of the info to myself, I will. And since I can't tell some of you exactly what I would be telling you on this forum, all I can say is I look forward to meeting you someday.

Adios Tom Stevens

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