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BillMcgElaphe, in response to your post from way down below

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Posted by: Sean at Tue Sep 6 09:41:00 2005   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by Sean ]  
   

I have to agree with Sean on this.

I’m not trying to be offensive here, but I must personally doubt the origin, based upon the shear odds. Others can form their own opinions.

Original amels came into the breeding circle on races like cal-kings, speckled kings, eastern kings only after thousands had been collected from the wild.

It was the great work of a few credible breeders (FR, Frank Groves, etc., etc.) that made amels go from something you would be lucky to even see in your lifetime, to something that is a normal occurrence at breeder expos.

The fact that the original WC pair has vanished off the face of the earth is suspect, or that they seem not have produced an amel for someone who bought them from Glades Herp.

As far as the odds of even finding a pair of blotched kings, between 1971 and 1977, I examined about 86 DOR and live blotched kings in the field and only found 2 pairs together (< 50 meters apart) in all that time.
Is it all possible? Of course. Is it probable??????


Bill, just curious if you have any pics of those kings you found. What became of the live ones you came across? If you'd rather answer this in an email, just let me know. I'd be interested in talking to you sometime more about this population of kings.

Sean


   

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