Hey Frank, I appreciate your veiw on this topic, but too make this easier for some to understand let me make a short list of the facts

1. The collectors age may be a factor, as some older guys look at things a lot different than a lot of younger guys do.

2. I stated the fact he has not found any more Goini there in 8 years

3. People who have what they feel to be a hot spot do not like reveal the locale as it only means others will go there and ruin it, he found plenty of other snakes besides the few Goini there

4. The history shows mistakes were made and snakes were lost, the morph came close to not making into the hobby

5. As you mentioned..luck...this was dumb luck as the guy was not even snake hunting the day he found them

6. Not every snake in the hobby got there without bending a rule or two

7. Who is too say the collector does not know things others wish they did know about finding snakes? He was not road cruising I can tell you that.

8. Colonies....maybe there are a few areas where these snakes are more abundant, and he happened to come across one

9. Not everyone is all about the internet. I myself only bought a digital camera two years ago. Some people keep their finds to themselves or simply do not make as big a deal of it as others would.

10. Many people realize that other Kings have been way more so mass produced and therefor easier to believe when a new morph pops up. However the bottom line is most morphs are produced from one single snake...again luck has to be a part of the picture.

I am in a position where people are demanding information I was asked to keep to myself. I know it would be easier to spill the beans but I won't. I researched the snakes history and people involved and I believe what I was told. What angers me is people admit there is not much known about these snakes as compared to other Kings,,,, but they're experts on what can and can not be. My White Sided Speckled Kings grandmother was in a collection for a good 15 years before it was reproduced, not everyone is out to seek fame and fortune in the world of snakes. They're just pets, and animals to enjoy. I am going to like working with these snakes...as I feel they have a lot too offer. It is a shame some will go out of their way to influence others to believe what they believe....which is not much. Tom Stevens

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