Whoa folks, Slow down.

I apologize to all here for continuing to flog a dead horse. I really didn’t mean to stir the pot again.



· Sean, I have good news and bad news in pics... Mostly bad.

I'll email you.



· Tom, I do apologize if I offended your personal integrity. My two key words here were my “opinion” and “probability”.

Can we see pics of the parents?

With all the designer breeding, hybrid mixing, and the market value that is now involved, did you not expect some doubting Thomas’s here?



· Frank (FR), you are absolutely right that no proof is apparent, positive or negative, so all is circumstantial. It’s true that other field collectors could very well find what we cannot, and do.

It’s very true that there is much more to the animal populations than what is crossing roads, or under tin.

I guess I’m a little callused because the captive breeding trade of 1980s, 90s, and 2000s have given the impression to some folks that amel cal-kings and corns are a dime a dozen in the field.

You are definitely one the most field sensitive, and best collectors, I’ve ever had the pleasure of herping with, and how many amels have you observed in the field? Again, I’m just talking probabilities, not possibilities,

(You’re not going to make me grab marbles from your hand now, are you, Frank?)

Regards, Bill McGighan

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• BillMcgElaphe, in response to your post from way down below - Sean, Tue Sep 6 09:41:00 2005
• RE: BillMcgElaphe, in response to your post from way down below - Nokturnel Tom, Tue Sep 6 09:50:25 2005
• RE: BillMcgElaphe, in response to your post from way down below - Sean, Tue Sep 6 10:24:05 2005
• RE: BillMcgElaphe, in response to your post from way down below - Nokturnel Tom, Tue Sep 6 10:52:54 2005
• RE: I am sorry Sean, but you really need to think - FR, Tue Sep 6 10:40:35 2005
• RE: I am sorry Sean, but you really need to think - Nokturnel Tom, Tue Sep 6 11:25:38 2005
• RE: Tom, try to listen to me here, hahahahaha - FR, Tue Sep 6 15:53:01 2005
• RE: Tom, try to listen to me here, hahahahaha - Nokturnel Tom, Tue Sep 6 16:50:47 2005
• RE: Tom, try to listen to me here, hahahahaha - antelope, Thu Sep 8 21:03:14 2005
• Is that one of my 05s?!?!?! - Nokturnel Tom, Thu Sep 8 22:14:55 2005
• RE: I am sorry Sean, but you really need to think - Keith Hillson, Tue Sep 6 13:08:34 2005
• I think everyone else missed that too Keith. - Sean, Tue Sep 6 16:47:27 2005
• RE: But Keith I thought - FR, Wed Sep 7 10:59:42 2005
• ROFLMAO,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,n/p - thomas davis, Wed Sep 7 13:10:03 2005
• RE: But Keith I thought - Keith Hillson, Wed Sep 7 20:02:49 2005
• Round three, eh? - jlassiter, Wed Sep 7 21:37:30 2005
• RE: Round three, eh? - thomas davis, Thu Sep 8 07:51:14 2005
• False innocence aside….. - Tony D, Tue Sep 6 12:50:43 2005
• RE: BillMcgElaphe, in response to your post from way down below - BillMcgElaphe, Tue Sep 6 15:49:23 2005
• RE: BillMcgElaphe, in response to your post from way down below - BillMcgElaphe, Tue Sep 6 15:57:47 2005
• Thanks Bill... - Sean, Tue Sep 6 16:43:19 2005
• RE: BillMcgElaphe, in response to your post from way down below - Nokturnel Tom, Tue Sep 6 17:35:28 2005
• RE: BillMcgElaphe, in response to your post from way down below - BillMcgElaphe, Tue Sep 6 18:44:49 2005
• RE: BillMcgElaphe, in response to your post from way down below - boids-n-more, Wed Sep 7 12:28:27 2005
• RE: BillMcgElaphe, in response to your post from way down below - Nokturnel Tom, Wed Sep 7 13:01:38 2005
• RE: BillMcgElaphe, in response to your post from way down below - boids-n-more, Wed Sep 7 16:23:49 2005
• RE: BillMcgElaphe, in response to your post from way down below - Nokturnel Tom, Wed Sep 7 16:29:58 2005
• cool thanks NP. - boids-n-more, Wed Sep 7 16:40:50 2005