haha people that say alterna are hard to get going should give holbrooki a try 4sure. my experience is that f1 spex are very very picky as all f1's they as wild snakes are engrained with fear and self preservation and are stressed very easily my advise is as lil outside contact as possible as it will only stress them more. have lots of substrate for burrowing and sevral hides and catch an appropiate sized ground skink and leave it in w/them. also make sure they are hydrated good some babies dont know what a water bowl is and will dehydrate themselves unknowingly again just leave them alone in a quiet undisturbed area w/a skink in the enclosure and they will come around after that first meal try a live pink left overnite maybe scent it w/skink. holbrooki are a challenge but are well worth it imho,,,,,,good luck,,,,,,,thomas

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• Feeding complications for these LA kings - mattbrock, Tue Sep 13 12:24:14 2005
• RE: Feeding complications for these LA kings - bluerosy, Tue Sep 13 12:53:43 2005
• RE: Feeding complications for these LA kings - mattbrock, Tue Sep 13 14:25:05 2005
• sorry I thought you meant Arcadia, Los Angeles - bluerosy, Tue Sep 13 14:37:55 2005
• RE: Feeding complications for these LA kings - antelope, Thu Sep 15 22:50:14 2005
• Try this........ - TobyEKing, Tue Sep 13 15:51:01 2005
• RE: Feeding complications for these LA kings - thomas davis, Tue Sep 13 15:53:06 2005
• RE: Feeding complications for these LA kings - kfisher29, Tue Sep 13 21:09:12 2005
• Thanks for all of the suggestions... - mattbrock, Tue Sep 13 17:39:01 2005
• RE: Thanks for all of the suggestions... - kfisher29, Tue Sep 13 21:17:14 2005
• just a little note - the_Ox, Tue Sep 13 21:11:01 2005