First, whenever someone posts, they are exposing the post or picture to a wide range of experiences and ideas. In other words, all sorts of individuals, that do not think alike. Sir that is a good thing.



Also, no matter what you post of this forum or any forum, you will recieve a range of opinions, see above. Never will all agree, see kerith, in his search for herp love



With that said, I would think lacking yellows and reds, axanthic, was first seen in desert black and white kings, as in pure naturally occuring axanthics.



Also, as a person near Yuma, I am not sure those are Yuma kings but a captive produced faxcimile of Yuma kings. Of course it may be, but as I have mentioned, in captivity, selection disappears and those wide(lite color) bandeds would be naturally selected against and not show up commonly while collecting. Also, the breaking up of the dark bands, is not normal for Yuma kings. Again, I am going off wild individuals as the word Yuma is a location of occurance not a breeder facility.



So, I too, wonder how you would call any of those axanthic, as they a are slightly brown and brown is a product of black and yellow(in kingsnakes) But again, its only words. As I hope your like me, when viewing all the goofy ball pythons, with all their goofy names. Heck, we simply called many of those morphs, ugly. Not that any kingsnake would be ugly.



For instance, that nice fella in San Diego posted the pic of an adult wild caught Hypo cal king, hypo means less black???? how about that animal being, hyper-xanthic, more yellow in the black. Then less black????? I would call that one a lite colored individual and those are common thru out SoCal.



OK, before you get mad, heres what I think, in order to use such terms as hypo or hyper(anything) The individual must exceed the range of normally occurring specimens. That is, all specimens. As in every population, there are lite ones, dark ones, so on and so forth, that is normal. Hypo or hyper, should exceed normal. In not, all specimens but the middle one, would be to some extent, hypo or hyper.



With that aside(where it should be) if its a first for you, that is what is important, if it blows you skirt up, then thats what is important. Don't ever let anyone else bother that.



One of my favorite events here on this site, is to see normal patterned snakes, that is so refreshing. But wait, later I have some pics of a few really weird calkings I just hatched, hahahahahahahaha Have fun sir, FR

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