Markel lists celenaops with 179-194 ventrals and zonata with 194-227 ventrals. Ventrals are the wide scales on the underside from the neck to the anal plate.

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• can anyone id this snake? - Dobry, Wed Sep 14 22:41:58 2005
• RE: can anyone id this snake? - fighterpilot, Thu Sep 15 00:09:14 2005
• RE: can anyone id this snake? - bobassetto, Thu Sep 15 06:03:34 2005
• One that just ate? np - wizbang, Thu Sep 15 08:12:15 2005
• RE: One that just ate? np - Dobry, Thu Sep 15 09:24:24 2005
• RE: can anyone id this snake? - Aaron, Thu Sep 15 10:16:56 2005
• RE: I can - HerperHelmz, Thu Sep 15 15:26:30 2005
• RE: I can - jlassiter, Thu Sep 15 20:33:13 2005
• definitely not sinaloan or nelsoni..... - justinian2120, Sun Sep 18 00:54:01 2005
• RE: can anyone id this snake? - chrish, Thu Sep 15 16:08:19 2005
• two votes for calaenops..... - Joe Forks, Thu Sep 15 19:20:00 2005
• RE: two votes for calaenops..... - jlassiter, Thu Sep 15 20:32:23 2005
• RE: two votes for calaenops..... - Aaron, Thu Sep 15 21:27:30 2005
• was looking for that.... - Joe Forks, Thu Sep 15 22:13:08 2005
• RE: can anyone id this snake? - pine, Thu Sep 15 18:24:27 2005
• RE: scoop the poop, dude....nm - the_Ox, Thu Sep 15 22:16:40 2005
• RE: can anyone id this snake? - antelope, Thu Sep 15 20:26:41 2005
• Here is a belly shot - Dobry, Thu Sep 15 23:19:32 2005
• RE: Here is a belly shot - Dobry, Fri Sep 16 00:17:46 2005
• RE: Here is a belly shot - Aaron, Fri Sep 16 11:04:51 2005
• That's not "typical" of celaenops... - Joe Forks, Fri Sep 16 08:46:16 2005