well IMHO and i have worked with both they(nigra&holbrooki) are the same snake. id say being in s.il its just a speckledee nigra IE if kept up and bred w/another of same locale that some babies would retain/gain speckles into adulthood and some would lose them as they age like nigra further east(that one may loose are gain speckles still as its growing), thats a great locality project imho as i beleive it would yeild both classic phenotypes of this getula that science/man has classified as 2 distinct ssp. regardless of ssp. great looking snake there ,,,,,,,,,,thomas davis

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