QUOTE:I think there are enough differences between specks and blacks to warrant separate subs.ENDQUOTE and what differances are they phil?ground color=same from blackblack to drk brown across their respective ranges surely you couldnt say that what about melanistic? pattern varieation,color? some show white to cream some show deep yellow?pattern specks,bars? def. a locale trait to help with camoflage imho,,,size? they are the same size,,,,scalation?,,same.
please tell me A differance in the ssp. your eastern intergrade is null as easterns get WAY bigger and do not go thru ontogenetic change,and have much bigger heads and bulkier bodies.for those reasons i can see ssp. status between nigra and lgg. bit i just cant see any in nigra and holbrooki i sure dont want to argue phil i just honestly would like to know exactly how you beleive they(nigra&holbrooki) are different and i beleive its holbrooki that should fall from ssp status ,if that means anything,,,,,,thomas davis

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