and you put your own words where you want them. For one, I did not state anything. Please read. I suggest possibilities.

For instance, you fellas call individuals intergrades without evidence of intergradation. You forget the major power that controls color(a fast changing genetic trait) its the enviornment selects what succeeds in a particular area, I have stated this over and over again, if you would want to discuss how valid is, then lets discuss that. But you only want to label things but what connection any trait has with a named(one you like) form or subspecies. That is in error. Or at least has a strong possibility of being very wrong.

It seems to me, you would think if someone let a green kingsnake loose in a calking area, there would be lots of green/calking intergrades for many years. How about releasing 100 green kings. The reality is, selection would allow the normal pattern to exsist as it has for decades.

Consider, if this was not so, and your constant intergradation is true, then there would be absolutely no reason for all the different morphs of Getulus. There would only be one dominate color morph, as habitat, would not modify only genetics would be expressed.

I really think you should consider the effects of selection and color morphs. Thanks for the conversation. FR

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