If I am to understand you, you are crediting kingsnakes with the ability to change their inherent behaviors and make new ones, because you put them in a box. Hmmmmmmmmmm I need to think about that. They must be far more advanced then mammals, heck people cannot even do that.



I am afraid, me thinking did no good. As I was taught and I believe, all animals have basic set behaviors, and they react accordingly to input with these behaviors. I get the feeling their behaviors and there ability to respond to them is exactly the same. But the input is not the same. Can you think about that? Your input to those behaviors is not the same. That makes the snakes the same. They just don't have normal input to react to.



So yes, your snakes may do different things, not because they are different, but because you supply different input. That is, you again are only allowing them to do so much. It really has little to do with the snakes abilities or whether they are in captivity or not.



For instance, one behavior thats skirted about here, Nesting. If you give them the tools to build and use a crappy nest, thats what they will do. If you give them the tools to build and use a really nice nest, again, thats what they will do. Also, if you do not give them any tools to nest at all, then the eggs go in the water bowl. The snakes the same snake, its about what is available to it.



This goes for the pyros stopping feeding. If they had the ability to move to a more suitable place, they would. But if they cannot then they won't, its just that simple.



The very nice part of having these conversations here on the KS forum is, people like you are very successful, and you should not have to worry about what others think of you. You also do not have to use any of this to help you become successful, you already are. Its not about life and death for your snakes, its simply, another way to think about our successful kingsnakes. On the monitor forum its quite a different story, its not about further learning there, its about life or death. Events like breeding are rare, and hatching is very very rare. They are lucky if their monitors live a couple years. So me having this type of conversation there is indeed rare.



I do understand, they do not HAVE to act like wild ones, thats not the point. But many are curious about how captives relate to wild ones. After all, we like the dang things. If your not interested or curious, then why did you even post a followup??? To prove me wrong perhaps? I am not wrong, the wild pyros around here are feeding just fine. Thats all I stated. How it relates to captive kingsnakes is the interesting part, or at least it should be for some of us. Just not you, I guess. U know, thats fine too. FR

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