return to main index

  mobile - desktop
follow us on facebook follow us on twitter follow us on YouTube link to us on LinkedIn
 
Click here for Dragon Serpents
Locate a business by name: click to list your business
search the classifieds. buy an account
events by zip code list an event
Search the forums             Search in:
News & Events: How a python change the course of Attenbourgh's life . . . . . . . . . .  Make good choices . . . . . . . . . .  Burmese found on roadside in Wisconsin raises issues . . . . . . . . . .  Short interview with Bryan Suson of Sundown Reptiles . . . . . . . . . .  Happy Earth Day . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake Merch Store . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake returns to Tinley . . . . . . . . . .  kingsnake.com joins Monitor Brains! . . . . . . . . . .  Sneak Peek . . . . . . . . . .  Amphibian gut bacteria showing promise in cancer research . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Meet The Baroness - The world's longest snake . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Updates? . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  The mechanics behind the viper strike . . . . . . . . . .  Snakes on a Train? . . . . . . . . . .  Tracking the animals in the Florida Everglades - Meet the Croc Docs . . . . . . . . . .  Reintroduction attempts give San Francisco Garter a second chance . . . . . . . . . .  Promoting Reptiles is Our Jam Man . . . . . . . . . .  Origins of Chytrid discovered . . . . . . . . . .  Wisdom Wednesday - The Forums - The water is warm... Come on in! . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake.com Past, Present and Future . . . . . . . . . .  IHS Celebrates 50 years . . . . . . . . . .  End of January 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Fun Fact Friday - Green Tree Monitor . . . . . . . . . .  The Evolution of the Osteoderm discovered . . . . . . . . . .  PACNWRS Expo Jan 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Diamondback discovered in new Texas county for first time . . . . . . . . . .  Bay Area Herpetological Society Meeting - May 22, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  DFW Herp Society Meeting - May 23, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Tucson Herpetological Society Meeting - May 25, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Greater Cincinnati Herp Society Meeting - June 03, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  CRE - Jun. 20-21, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Colorado Herp Society Meeting - June 20, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Chicago Herpetological Society Meeting - June 21, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Bay Area Herpetological Society Meeting - June 26, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  DFW Herp Society Meeting - June 27, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Greater Cincinnati Herp Society Meeting - July 01, 2026 . . . . . . . . . . 

Here in MI....

[ Login ] [ User Prefs ] [ Search Forums ] [ Back to Main Page ] [ Back to Kingsnake Forum ]

Posted by: ratsnakehaven at Fri Oct 21 05:02:39 2005   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by ratsnakehaven ]  
   

Hi, Kerby. Nice post.



Yesterday in n. Michigan it was 51*F. for a high and about 32*F. for a low. When I got home it was sunny and pleasant, but cool. I know there are hundreds of snakes living on my property (20 acres), and I have dozens of snake traps (boards, tin, rocks, etc.) spread around the property. But when I went around and checked things I didn't see one single snake...





I haven't seen any snakes since the end of September, with the exception of a few Eastern garters, when temps hit the 70's. Why aren't the snakes surface active under these conditions in n. MI?



I believe snakes have different behaviors in different areas of the country. Even in the southern part of MI the snakes behave different than they do where I live because of the differing conditions, even though they may seem the same at the time. If it had been spring yesterday, I probably would have seen dozens of snakes depending on what part of spring and what the snakes were doing. Mostly, only the natricine snakes are surface active in early spring here.



I think 51*F, and sunny, is different in AZ than it is in n. MI at this time of year. I don't have much time to talk about it right now, but will throw out a couple reasons to think about. One is that it is much less likely to freeze overnight in AZ than in n. MI. Another is that AZ will get way more days around 70*F. than in n. MI. And finally, the underground temps are very important too. I don't have too much time to explain right now. Let's just say that the temps near the surface in AZ stay in a range the snakes can function in much longer than they do in n. MI. In MI, once the underground temps start dropping below a critical temp, I believe around 55*F, I believe the snakes start to shut down and not move.



Anyway, I'll keep you all posted on what I see from now until next spring and get back to you later on talking about the underground temps and why snakes can stay surface active longer in AZ.



PS: My job right now is killing me. I'm going to be very involved for awhile. Should get some time this coming weekend.



Terry


   

[ Show Entire Thread ]


>> Next Message:  RE: Here in MI.... - crom, Sun Oct 23 10:44:48 2005

<< Previous Message:  10.20.05, Prescott, AZ - 5,000 ft elevation, the temps were....... - Kerby..., Thu Oct 20 20:14:52 2005 image in post

Click for 65% off Shipping with Reptiles 2 You Click here to visit Classifieds Click to visit Brass Man Reptiles
KINGSNAKE.COM

Enjoy all our content free of charge with a user account that gives you full access to every feature. For added visibility, paid options are available - post in our Classifieds, showcase your business with Banner Ads or a Directory listing, promote reptile events, and more.

Quick Links
Community
Legal & Safety
Support

Register for free ✓ Sign up!

Kingsnake.com ® is a registered trademark © 1997-