yeah it makes perfect sense to me they(na vines) would utilize similiar habitat as the mtn.patchnose do,i dont know why it just does.but i would assume the vines tend to be more arboreal than the patchnose,but thats just that an ASSumption. as far as green rats i havnt a clue i would again assume(know 1sthand knowledge) rocky outcroppings as their preffered habitat,but thats just a guess really. i do know in central & s.tx. you can find tx.patchnose year around.

during these end months of the year and the beginnings of the next,do you find getula at all?

i know for the most part here in tx. getula are underground in dec./jan. even on the warmer days of course there are exceptions,but for the most part ya just dont see them till feb.which is funny because feb.is one of the consistanly colder months here,i beleive they just like the trees and plants do go into a nature induced dormancy and also just like the trees know to start budding in the spring regardless of temps that the snakes know as well its time to go on with life. i beleive its a biological clock thang that we just cant quite comprehend yet,its also one of the cool things about temperate zoned reptiles,,,im curious to how you will chewup and spit out my observances,,no really i dig your straight fowardness,,now let me have your lowdown on the sitchiAtion!,,,,,,,,,thomas

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