You are so way off, You must be an old fella who fears change, hahahahahahahahahahahaha. Please get humor. Or an egotistical fella who thinks anything that differs from your thoughts is wrong, back to the old fella thing, again humor. But you should get the point.

I do know and understand what these snakes are suppose to do. Thats why we are taking a look at this area. So far, these snakes are as more in the treeless areas, in fact, they seem to avoid the heavily treed areas in preference to very sparely treed to treeless.

More on the rats, I have populations in many different mountain ranges with several seperate populations per mountain range. There habitats have distint and consistant differences. As I mentioned, at times, going away from anything we knew of.

Again back to REALITY, those snakes were there at that spot, we have repeatedly seen them, in this type of habitat, to a point, that they are far more commonly found in this habitat, then others. for us, here, at this time.

Now to learn to read, I did not say, they were not in other habitats. I did not say that literature is wrong, All I/we are saying is, this habitat can be added to what is already known.

If you were to ask questions, I may be able to help you understand. But if you only fall back of old paradigns, there is no helping you to understand this little tiny incident, if you put up barriers.

for instance, in the spring, baby vine snakes were found here in this habitat, now in the fall, I an finding larger babies. As in, they are here and growing at a normal rate. Which only suggests, this is were they live. Of course, that could change with additional information. But nothing can change the fact that this snake was found here.

I also understand, a snake can crawl anywhere, into, out of, all sorts of habitats, heck once we found a zonata coiled on a rock in the middle of a creek. But what is important is, finding life events, such as babies, eggs, etc, These are as important as it gets in determining what a snake really does. Without successful offspring, there are no adults. That much is simple.

So to add to the billion and one possibilities, could this habitat be a nursery??? and the adults actually live miles away in the trees, of course it could, thats why a person would investigate.

Again back to the fact, we can guess, assume, theorize all we want, but the fact is, the snake I pictured was exactly in that pic period. The rest can be played in our minds all we want. Add to that, we have seen many to in this habitat, then you have something to question, WHY? particularly for a snake that appears so adapted to trees? which sir, is the point of this whole exercise. If I was only finding them in trees or treed areas, there would be no reason to do a double check, would there? "Hey dude, I caught a vinesnake in vines, yup, thats were there found dude". Again humor. FR

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