babies and adults equally via the road and I think the babies and adults have been spread equally throughout treed and treeless zones for us. But again, thats just us and could be just circumstance. I can say I have never seen a baby while on foot in any micro enviroment. They look like pieces of clothes hanger when in the road. I almost hit a baby last year. The only reason I swerved to miss it is that I knew it was something that had not been there on a previous pass. I haven't personally found any dead in the road but I know of several people that have and I agree that many are probably hit unknowingly by herpers who don't have a search image for them. Back around 1990 I talked to a guy at an AHA meeting who had gone down and spent a whole day wacking bushes with a big stick in hopes of making a vinesnake move and give itself away. He saw no snakes whatso ever and then hit the pavement for some road cruisin' after dark. He found an adult Oxybelis on the pavement at around 2330. I have always figured they must be in the Sasabe area and the southern end of the Baboquivaris. The habitat looks good to me. There is an un-verified account of one from Kitt Peak. Also in Florida Canyon in the Ritas. Interstingly I was perusing AZG&F's site for species of special concern and they have the Florida Canyon specimen listed as though they consider it valid.

Speaking of the Sasabe area, I have always pondered the occurence of Leptodeira and Imantodes in that area. I know Imantodes occurs as far north as Benjamin Hill (not sure about Letodeira)so I don't think Sasabe is that much of a longshot for either species. I remember you mentioning finding a dead Cat Eyed Snake down there. Heck, just think what may be traveling northward in the backpacks of illegals,lol! Here's a couple coralillos from the Little Birds.

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