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Phil Peak
at Wed Nov 9 17:46:13 2005 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by Phil Peak ]
Great info Rich and it certainly gives me something to think about. I do think its best not to think in absolutes and you put forth some good examples. I do wonder if snakes behave differently in various areas for what ever reason or if there is indeed a gap in knowledge. I have had a different experience with some of the N.A. colubrids I have over wintered over the years and some not so good! Years ago I recall losing a couple of snakes that I decided to cool down with the others despite being in some phase of a shed cycle. In both instances I lost the snakes, shedding did not take place, and this despite the temps being no lower than 50F. The snakes had full access to water and I checked on them weekly. Basically I killed two healthy snakes by not waiting for them to shed until putting them down. I think its not coincidental that I no longer see snakes in ecdysis in the wild after early Oct. I do know that some of my snakes move slightly during winter cooling and I believe fresh water should be available at all times. My wintering conditions are generally between 50F and 55F yet when I check on my snakes every week or so I see anything but alert snakes. My snakes are in what I would best describe as a torpid state and are far from alert. The snakes I keep are your typical N.A. colubrids, Pituophis, Lampropeltis and Panthophis. Thanks once again for your insights. Very good stuff that I would not have thought. Phil
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RE: couple thoughts..... - Phil Peak, Wed Nov 9 17:46:13 2005